What's your Monitor Size?

[ispano]

Agreed, TVs just aren't the same as Computer Monitors. Dot Pitch is much worse, because they're designed to be viewed from much farther away. ie a 22" Monitor @ 1920x1080 vs a 32"+ TV @ 1920x1080. Same resolution, TV has larger pixels. They often have other things not optimal for PC gaming as well.

I use a 30" @ 2560x1600, won't ever go back to something smaller unless I have to.

[Daku_Naito]

Agreed, TVs just aren't the same as Computer Monitors. Dot Pitch is much worse, because they're designed to be viewed from much farther away. ie a 22" Monitor @ 1920x1080 vs a 32"+ TV @ 1920x1080. Same resolution, TV has larger pixels. They often have other things not optimal for PC gaming as well.

I use a 30" @ 2560x1600, won't ever go back to something smaller unless I have to.

I wish mu stand could hold three of those bad boys, but it only goes up to 3x24. Though, I'm not complaining.

[Laraul]

Agreed, TVs just aren't the same as Computer Monitors. Dot Pitch is much worse, because they're designed to be viewed from much farther away. ie a 22" Monitor @ 1920x1080 vs a 32"+ TV @ 1920x1080. Same resolution, TV has larger pixels. They often have other things not optimal for PC gaming as well.

And yet my 46" TV with it's native 1280x720 resolution displays games/video much better than my IPS 29" monitor with it's native resolution of 2560x1440. There isn't anything special about "PC gaming." The only issue is that PCs output in RGB color and most other devices output in YcRcB (chroma).

[ispano]

And yet my 46" TV with it's native 1280x720 resolution displays games/video much better than my IPS 29" monitor with it's native resolution of 2560x1440. There isn't anything special about "PC gaming." The only issue is that PCs output in RGB color and most other devices output in YcRcB (chroma).

Why is it better then? I listed resolution, because like other things on PC, resolution is a huge contributor to many PC Games. Games that use button bars or windows(Like EVE for example) can display more of the game world itself due to having more pixels to do so with. ie a TV or Monitor at 1920x1080 with the same UI setup will look the same, exactly the same, just scaled to the physical size of the display. A monitor with a higher resolution however can still keep the same pixel count for the UI, and still be readable even, to change that ratio of world to UI.

And I mentioned IPS since they have some of the best color reproduction of any LCD panel, assuming you get good ones, than others like TN/MVA/PVA(Although those last two have the best black reproduction of the 4, just SLOW response times). Some TVs do use IPS, but you're less likely to know it does since the manufacturer doesn't release those specs as much as they do with monitors.

So, I prefer monitors, especially ones that push past standard TV resolution for the reasons above. Any reason why TVs are better?

[Daku_Naito]

Why is it better then? I listed resolution, because like other things on PC, resolution is a huge contributor to many PC Games. Games that use button bars or windows(Like EVE for example) can display more of the game world itself due to having more pixels to do so with. ie a TV or Monitor at 1920x1080 with the same UI setup will look the same, exactly the same, just scaled to the physical size of the display. A monitor with a higher resolution however can still keep the same pixel count for the UI, and still be readable even, to change that ratio of world to UI.

And I mentioned IPS since they have some of the best color reproduction of any LCD panel, assuming you get good ones, than others like TN/MVA/PVA(Although those last two have the best black reproduction of the 4, just SLOW response times). Some TVs do use IPS, but you're less likely to know it does since the manufacturer doesn't release those specs as much as they do with monitors.

So, I prefer monitors, especially ones that push past standard TV resolution for the reasons above. Any reason why TVs are better?

I doubt the 46 inch TV is better than the IPS monitor anyway...

[Laraul]

Why is it better then? I listed resolution, because like other things on PC, resolution is a huge contributor to many PC Games. Games that use button bars or windows(Like EVE for example) can display more of the game world itself due to having more pixels to do so with. ie a TV or Monitor at 1920x1080 with the same UI setup will look the same, exactly the same, just scaled to the physical size of the display. A monitor with a higher resolution however can still keep the same pixel count for the UI, and still be readable even, to change that ratio of world to UI.

So, I prefer monitors, especially ones that push past standard TV resolution for the reasons above. Any reason why TVs are better?

Resolution is subjective. I mean FFXIV's opening movie (the pre rendered one) looks the same at 1280x720 as it does at 2560x1440. You can not tell what resolution the game is running as that video plays. And even during game play 2560x1440 doesn't look much better than 1280x720 (except on the IPS display 1280x720 looks a bit blocky for some reason). On the TV 1280x720 doesn't look blocky at all. The TV also is better at creating true black versus the monitor. The TV (which is an old Toshiba DLP) produces better color than the monitor (an Apple Cinema Display). It's all about color not resolution that produces the best picture.

[ispano]

Resolution is subjective. I mean FFXIV's opening movie (the pre rendered one) looks the same at 1280x720 as it does at 2560x1440. You can not tell what resolution the game is running as that video plays. And even during game play 2560x1440 doesn't look much better than 1280x720 (except on the IPS display 1280x720 looks a bit blocky for some reason). On the TV 1280x720 doesn't look blocky at all. The TV also is better at creating true black versus the monitor. The TV (which is an old Toshiba DLP) produces better color than the monitor (an Apple Cinema Display). It's all about color not resolution that produces the best picture.

Subjective..... Oh boy. Displaying a pre-rendered video at a higher resolution than it was made at will of course look worse due to scaling. And I wasn't even talking about colors and such, and if I was I would mention that a properly calibrated IPS panel is going to output color better than just about any TV. However, the point of resolution isn't so much "looking good", it's about screen real estate. I can display the same amount of readable chat lines/whatever on a higher resolution display, yet take up less space. In EVE this is far more useful than some games. And in many games it gives you more of a view and you can also see more detail in the models dependent on the resolution of the textures used.

Also, running a resolution lower than an LCD's native res will look blocky 99% of the time. Unless you run a 1 to 1 pixel ratio which would leave black all around the image.

[JohnSeret]

Agreed, TVs just aren't the same as Computer Monitors. Dot Pitch is much worse, because they're designed to be viewed from much farther away. ie a 22" Monitor @ 1920x1080 vs a 32"+ TV @ 1920x1080. Same resolution, TV has larger pixels. They often have other things not optimal for PC gaming as well.

I use a 30" @ 2560x1600, won't ever go back to something smaller unless I have to.

yes if you have the same amount of pixels in 22" and 32" then the pixel need to be bigger to fill the 10" in the 32"

just technical crap cheers

about the 3 monitor thingy is it a good experience to play like that?

personally playing from my sofa with controller on a 40" tv 1360ish resolution else its too tiny to read

[Molly_Millions]

1about the 3 monitor thingy is it a good experience to play like that?

I love it. it's especially rad in 3D

[ispano]

yes if you have the same amount of pixels in 22" and 32" then the pixel need to be bigger to fill the 10" in the 32"

just technical crap cheers

about the 3 monitor thingy is it a good experience to play like that?

personally playing from my sofa with controller on a 40" tv 1360ish resolution else its too tiny to read

Well it's also that with TVs you typically sit farther away so the larger pixels aren't as noticeable. But without that "technical crap" we wouldn't have TVs and monitors and yeah.

As for Eyefinity, and the nVidia counterpart for spanning monitors, while I like the technology, I prefer one larger display. The bezel thing would just annoy me, as would the way the system sets it up. I prefer to have multiple monitors for different things rather than span the game on all of them.

That's the other problem with PC games on TVs. The text and such is designed to be read on a display near you, not far, like a TV.