Is everyone cheating now in CC?

[S__th_rn_fl_am_]

every video showing any information about it is just showing the same screenshot from Arthars tweet, which is the champion addon stuff. I would love to see someone's video of it in action. I feel like with the amount of people complaining about it someone would have a recording of it. Youtubers are making videos off the information from that discord and its funny that people are paying for this; but without some sort of proof I'm not convinced this is keeping people out of gold.
Even if it works perfectly, lets say, the MCH auto LB. By accident LoS, use of guard for other reasons, unforseen heals/shields, this script would sit on a fast charging LB, ignoring other optional uses. Or, if it's programmed to take risks on weakened targets depending on ping and possible targets, it's no more dangerous that a player randomly deciding to pop it off on someone they think might be KO-able.
It's scummy, and I won't discount that these addons are cheating, but I don't think it's as widespread as everyone is making it out to be.

[Iyrnwaen]

Even if it works perfectly, lets say, the MCH auto LB. By accident LoS, use of guard for other reasons, unforseen heals/shields, this script would sit on a fast charging LB, ignoring other optional uses. Or, if it's programmed to take risks on weakened targets depending on ping and possible targets, it's no more dangerous that a player randomly deciding to pop it off on someone they think might be KO-able.
It's scummy, and I won't discount that these addons are cheating, but I don't think it's as widespread as everyone is making it out to be.

This has been my overall feeling. I'm sure these scripts are real and that some people are using them,
but the sort of effects folks are talking about sound like things that would be detrimental as often as not.
Like, cool, the script used your MCH ult for you based on someone's HP, but some other factor interfered so it's wasted.
Or the person dies but it was the last person on their team retreating from a rout, so you just helped him respawn with his team and your ult is down for the next teamfight.
Maybe your auto-polymorph script shuts down a DRG ult that wasn't going to kill anyone anyway and now it's down when the SAM pops Chiten.
Quazii's video talked about scripts that automatically use your gap closers. Why on earth would you EVER want that?
This seems less like the auto-win toolkit it's made out to be, and more like an awkward crutch that feels like it's helping,
but in reality is building a dependence that prevents you from growing beyond its limitations.

[S__th_rn_fl_am_]

This seems less like the auto-win toolkit it's made out to be, and more like an awkward crutch that feels like it's helping,
but in reality is building a dependence that prevents you from growing beyond its limitations.

My feelings exactly. There have been like two or three videos of obvious speed/hp hacks but that's not widespread. That's the same dude that has been doing it since the Feast in like 2019. These PvP addons will work about as good as the WoW addons, or about as good as the PvE addons. Which is to say, if you know exactly what you're doing with them and how they work, you can make some neat custom triggers, but if you're trying to use them as a win button you're just going mess them up. Not to mention they cost money from the provider lol. I'm more worried about the people using multiple accounts to sell boosts on overgear interfering with my rank than someone using one of these addons.

[Zakuyia]

I never cheat in CC all skills up to 141 wins. WIth that said Garo mounts + competive matches= people who suck at pvp trying to shortcut same as housing people who abuse it with botting people are lazy decide cheating or botting is easier than hard work for it... at least thats the way i see it.

[KageTokage]

The moment I stepped into the revamped PvP, I made it a note to mess with every job's kit/rotation for a good while so I'd know precisely what manners of shenanigans they'd all be capable of getting up to.

[Iyrnwaen]

The moment I stepped into the revamped PvP, I made it a note to mess with every job's kit/rotation for a good while so I'd know precisely what manners of shenanigans they'd all be capable of getting up to.

I wish to god more people would do this. Healers in particular.
It's astonishing to me how many players I still see in matches clearly, visibly playing DPS like they're somehow going to be spam-healed.

Folks, I'm begging you, play at least one healer for a few matches in casual. That's not what they do now.
AST and WHM can deliver a clutch heal here and there, but you should consider yourself 100% responsible for your own survival at all times.

[DerringerSwyft]

I don't know about cheating, I've never seen it that I'm aware of (not to say it doesn't exist), but I do wish the rules on how to get victory were more clear to players who are new to CC. I see so many people actively avoiding the crystal like it smells funny, or players who avoid everything just to try to camp the opposing team's spawn, and then they are stuck wondering why they lost.

[SweetPete]

I wish to god more people would do this. Healers in particular.
It's astonishing to me how many players I still see in matches clearly, visibly playing DPS like they're somehow going to be spam-healed.

Folks, I'm begging you, play at least one healer for a few matches in casual. That's not what they do now.
AST and WHM can deliver a clutch heal here and there, but you should consider yourself 100% responsible for your own survival at all times.

Omg so true. As soon as they see a healer on their team they think they safe to just try to get a kill without healing themselves. I’m like come on guys.

[Xel]

Indeed, above. I heal on my WHM, but, corners people, corners...they are the true killers...

[KickRox]

I know bards are way underpowered in dps compared to the other classes, but I should not be able to pump 5 fully buffed skills into someone and their health bar just doesn't even move. And I'm not talking about pounding on the tank. I'm talking about NIN, SAM, DRG, MNK, SGE, WHM, SCH, BLM, SMN, RPR, RDM, MCH, DNC, and even other bards. I can see laying into a tank and their health bar hardly moves. They're a TANK; it's to be expected, but these other classes, something is not right.

Oh, this phenomenon doesn't happen against every player. Just sometimes, particularly once I get up to about Silver 1.

Guardian.

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