Rampant Cheating in PvP

[PotatoTree]

I really hope that SE has a plan to deal with all the cheats that have started to crop up just 4-5 days into CC (and yes I know they existed before). And this is just the first week, I have no doubt these cheats would only advance as the seasons progress. These cheats range from triggers to straight up hacks.

These are getting to the point where you can't even report people anymore because you can't even really differentiate if they are lucky/skilled or cheating, but the fact that the cheat exists will always be at the back of your mind.

In Feast while cheating did happen, it wasn't as impactful since player skill was still a huge part of winning. With CC however, the abilities are more impactful, such that the player can be doing nothing most of the game but as long as the cheats get their abilities off they can still win the match.

On top of that, with the current ranking system people are already wintrading. In Feast wintrading did happen but it largely wasn't even worth for any skilled player due to the time investment needed. In CC however someone can just sit on the same job as diamond 5 or crystal 0 and feed.

I really hope that until SE resolves cheating that the top 100 rewards stay "casual". Eventually if the game mode is just all cheaters I don't see the point in playing.

[Ogrumz]

Yeah, 3rd match of the day was a RDM that was using the MP/GCD/immune to CC stuff and he literally 1v5'd the entire team several times cause we couldn't CC him at all but he got to dump his entire kit in one GCD which silences, binds, healing reduction, and does a bucket load of damage.

EDIT: Also reporting in this game is overly complicated. So even if you want to report it takes a process.

[PotatoTree]

I don't know why SE doesn't just auto detect this stuff and insta kick. Like there should be no instance where the player moves under their own will while bound.

[AzraelWyvern]

They want PVP to be successful and they realise it with no anti-cheat or systems....brain dead decision.
Typical SE.

[Tyjacon]

They want PVP to be successful and they realise it with no anti-cheat or systems....brain dead decision.
Typical SE.

It's not SE's fault that players cheat. It's the players fault.

People want the bragging rights but don't want to put in the work to do it legitamitely.
They cry "We want more challenging content" then use third party software to make it as easy as possible.

Typical people.

[QooEr]

It's not SE's fault that players cheat. It's the players fault.

its square enix's fault for not having any kind of validation to players actions on the server's side. it doesnt even try to flag anything suspicious.

oh you used a skill that shoulve been on cooldown? moved when stun/bound? moved at a rate higher than the usual movement speed? hm.


literally fflogs puts more effort into taking down/banning cheaters than square enix does

[KageTokage]

I think the only issue is that adding validation/encryption to data transfers to reduce/prevent cheating can also increase the amount of lag, and people already complain about the server response time feeling sluggish in PvP.

At this point I think it's something they need to implement regardless, at least for PvP.

[endscape]

Yes, and no. SE needs to deter people from cheating through an anti-cheat system (which isn't a perfect deterrent) but it's malms better than what they're currently doing.

[QooEr]

I think the only issue is that adding validation/encryption to data transfers to reduce/prevent cheating can also increase the amount of lag, and people already complain about the server response time feeling sluggish in PvP.

At this point I think it's something they need to implement regardless, at least for PvP.

i mean they could flag people at the end of a match, the battle log is right there

[KageTokage]

It would work for some forms of cheating like the CC ignoring because moving/taking actions while stunned would be an obvious red flag.

More lowkey stuff like automated action execution or ignoring animation/OGCD delays might be harder to pin down, though.