Do the Japanese community use the Translator at all?

[ChickNorris]

If you are truly concerned it isn't that hard to figure out what they are shouting in JP. Additionally, some game terms, locations and actions are completely different names in other languages. So if you want to communicate with anyone who speaks another language, you have to at least try and....well, communicate. This means taking the time to learn the correct words for what you want to say and also be able to attempt to learn what the responses are.

Alise, Zheru and even Chard covered most of the actual reasons there is this barrier. It exists not just between NA and JP, but all languages. However, I have some friends who are JP. Not all of them can write/read English. A couple not at all. But we are still friends. We both just take the time to talk and to learn what to say to each other. For this we use anything available. Online things, bilingual friends, etc. These friends, I have done all fights with. It isn't an issue of communication. It is an issue of attitude. If you make the effort to respect someone, chances are really good they will respect you back.

The only two specific things I think have been left out of this discussion is that you need to also consider the fact that the things you feel when trying to approach and speak to a person of another language on the game, they feel also. It is overwhelming for some people to risk being ridiculed or rejected merely upon a misunderstanding. In short, some don't play with other language speakers because of their comfort level.

Second, this whole thing that the JP are JP Only is not only a bunch of junk, but it is also worth mentioning that as hard as you think they are on NA players, they are equally hard on their fellow JP. There are websites that list people they tell each other not to play with (other JP Players). There is a very large social component that you do not consider. Which, given the general idea of this thread, perhaps you should try to consider in the future.

[Alhanelem]

Some of them use it. Heck, some of them even use english when recruiting, because they're having a hard time getting enough people.

[Mikita]

Overall I think it's just the language barrier and the general desire to be with people who you can communicate with easily.


But one other minor aspect that may influence Auto-translated shouts could be their lack of politeness.

I see many Japanese shouts in Ul'dah that are very polite... often starting with a apology for shouting in the first place.
Japanese speech is full of "ritual phrases" that you expect people to say in certain situations. Not using these phrases can be a little surprising, and sometimes potentially insulting... especially with strangers.

Auto-translate can get a basic message across, but it's much more direct and cannot convey any of the typically expected politeness in Japanese speech.

I do see Japanese players shouting with the Auto-translate function, so there are those who use it. But non-translated shouts are probably more common.

[Norack]

From my experience its always JP Onry! in FFXI. I remember countless times in FFXI even when I told them I could speak Japanese they still didnt want me because i wasn't native JP. In FFXI it was very segregated (In my experience.). You had to not only be able to speak Japanese but you HAD to be Japanese to. In FFXIV I think the Japanese community has really lightened up. I dont really ever see JP ppl using the auto translate, but me and lots of my ls mates have gotten into many jp partys when they use it.

[Babydoll]

I don't use it...I just type in plain english hehe I never see them using it either...

Funny thing is most tells I get (when shouting in english) is from JP people asking to join up!

[Laraul]

English players use the auto-translate a lot for auto completion. There is less need for this when typing in Japanese thanks to the IME. But the real problem with the auto translator is that it's hard to find the terms you wish to use. When I've been invited to a Japanese group, usually the terms for the destination (i.e. Camps) aren't in the dictionary.

The fact is the auto translator is a poor way to communicate. Japanese players would very much like to communicate with us, but the auto translator is too much a hassle. It may not seem like it when randomly shouting but once your party is formed you'll quickly see that it's just very awkward. In order for something like the auto translate to truly perform it's function it needs a complete overhaul. Just adding terms is not going to be enough. It needs to be intelligent enough to take context into account, for example.

[kazaran]

I end up invited more to Japanese parties then english speaking. IT how you present yourself.

Many Japanese speak some english. THe translator works. Even tho it is very limited.

Google Translate works even better, I have away to extract japanese text into it and it speaks it back in english.

[Thebard]

I end up invited more to Japanese parties then english speaking. IT how you present yourself.

Many Japanese speak some english. THe translator works. Even tho it is very limited.

Google Translate works even better, I have away to extract japanese text into it and it speaks it back in english.

(Thats interesting)

[Alhanelem]

If anything, I'd say the japanese are far more willing to play with others in this game than they were in FFXI.

[VytasBismarck]

Because JP Onry, and because american penis so big!
J/K XD Obvious reasons are obvious - comunication is importaint when it comes to end-game content...