Revert Samurai changes. Stop doubling down on your screw up.

[ShanaShirayuki]

Yep, y'all are bullying them all over just like 5.0 again.

Given the way people are whining and screaming all over the forums about it, I really hope they dig in their heels and stick to their decision. Also I don't recall them asking our opinion here, they said they're watching the ninja changes, but the tantrum samurai mains are throwing are burying any discussion that might be had on that job.

Really now?

"i DoN't ReCaLl ThEm AsKiNg OuR oPiNiOn HeRe"

Surprised no one else went for the jugular and called this fool out on his BS earlier. Get used to these threads bud, they're here to stay.

[wereotter]

Really now?

"i DoN't ReCaLl ThEm AsKiNg OuR oPiNiOn HeRe"

Surprised no one else went for the jugular and called this fool out on his BS earlier. Get used to these threads bud, they're here to stay.

Links to a thread where they explicitly state they're looking for feedback on ninja... yet the children are instead drowning out that conversation with their whining about something unrelated in another attempt to bully the developers into doing what they want.

[ShanaShirayuki]

Links to a thread where they explicitly state they're looking for feedback on ninja... yet the children are instead drowning out that conversation with their whining about something unrelated in another attempt to bully the developers into doing what they want.

So you can't read, got it.

[KYuuma]

Please stop feeding the troll. You're all being baited out of the topic so easily it isn't even funny anymore.

[Fable_Frost]

Please don't let your incompetence over the housing lottery system overshadow your incompetent and ill-thought out changes to Samurai.

I'm about to go into Ultimate on a job that isn't what I geared up to do it on and at this point I don't even have a choice regarding BIS.

Revert the changes immediately.

[Ruminous]

I'm about to go into Ultimate on a job that isn't what I geared up to do it on and at this point I don't even have a choice regarding BIS.

You too, huh? I have absolutely 0 hope samurai gets fixed before that drops, so I've been gearing up other roles. Should just learn blm, but...Definitely isn't my style.

[SleeeeeeepySleeeeeeep]

Links to a thread where they explicitly state they're looking for feedback on ninja... yet the children are instead drowning out that conversation with their whining about something unrelated in another attempt to bully the developers into doing what they want.

yo you've been missing.

It's awesome when you help bump our "QQ" and whining. Can you keep up your stupid posts?

[SleeeeeeepySleeeeeeep]

SE/YoshiP. Stop lamenting the dev's time has gone to waste.

It's far better to lose some dev time than to lose players who are pissed off / bored of your jobs.

Pull your head out of your ass and revert it.

[Shurrikhan]

You mean like when everyone did exactly the same when I and other monks voiced our opposition to the job chances in 6.0?

Yes, people do this. Though we also didn't flood the forums with dozens of separate threads on the same topic. The devs themselves even said to stick to one thread and not spam the forums with lots of threads.

And also yes, right now how it looks, it seems like children throwing a tantrum, especially when you see "JUST REVERT IT" and "CHANGE NOW" screaming at them. So yeah, I'm going to call out what reads as childish behavior

As a former Monk main, this makes zero sense. Calling out others for giving their feedback in whatever way they expect would have the most impact makes no more sense now than then.

And, arguably, we shouldn't have limited ourselves to just a few threads. The SAM feedback is seeing far more cross-platform traction than we managed, and I wouldn't doubt a large part of that is just how (obnoxiously, if you care to call it such) visible those affected are complaining about the unwanted changes this time around.

Yes, most of those threads aren't meant to get to the heart of how and why the problems work, but simply to funnel attention to the few longer threads that really matter. But if that's what it takes to expand attention to the point the devs would have far more trouble ignoring it, then so be it.

Unlike the earlier Monk changes, which at least smoothed out a garbled mess (even if in arguably the wrong way), there's no redeeming feature to these changes here. They're therefore that much less excusable.

[Shurrikhan]

My point now, I still remember the samurai burining the forums to the ground and bullying the devs into changing the ONE downtime skill the job was given in Shadowbringers, and here we are again with the same people throwing a fit of the dumbest thing.

Shoha was only a tangential note to what was more broadly an issue of gameplay being centered around an inflexible skill for which a single instance of packet loss could utterly screw over your minute-by-minute rotation, being generally undertuned, and having been stripped of a core tool (Hagakure).

That what was presented as the then-capstone skill (Shoha) had turned out instead, in effect, to be a mere buff to a 1-minute-CD movement-and-turning-locked downtime skill (Meditation) was merely an iconic representation of that slap to the face.

The "solution" the devs gave, moreover, was half a Monkey's Paw outcome at best, and went directly against much of that same feedback's reasoning. It was not what SAMs at the time were fighting for.

I was still playing Monk alone at the time and even I couldn't garble the narrative that badly except by intent.