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    Player BrokentoothMarch's Avatar
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    Man, I'd kill for Wildstar housing. Even Ultima got housing to acceptable conditions in 1999.

    My patience wears thin in this not because I hate the devs or think it's easy, but because it's been almost ten years of a directly advertised feature is still in a state of such horrific disrepair. At this point, just take it off the advertisement and I'll finally have to concede. It bugs the hell out of me that it genuinely was one of the thing that sold me to come into FFXIV and now I'm being told to take a hike if I like it!

    Check the mainpage of FFXIV! Housing is still advertised! HECK.
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    I just feel like they are committed to this neighborhood idea and HAVE to make it work somehow. But maybe they dont have to be so stubborn. Like its okay to take a step back and try a different approach if the current one isnt working. It may be way more efficient.
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    People have complained about housing since it launched all those many years back. They have always continued on the same path. They aren't going to change.
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    Player BrokentoothMarch's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToniRomo View Post
    People have complained about housing since it launched all those many years back. They have always continued on the same path. They aren't going to change.
    And, fittingly, I'm not going to stop complaining.

    EDIT: I might sometimes because forum post cap, admittedly, because that's another very intelligent design decision. /s
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrokentoothMarch View Post
    And, fittingly, I'm not going to stop complaining.

    EDIT: I might sometimes because forum post cap, admittedly, because that's another very intelligent design decision. /s
    Lol yeah. Basically.

    This option would end this cycle once and for all. It doesn’t have be this way lol.
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    I don't think anything will change. The reason for this is that I believe there is a fostered culture of conformity within SE. SE is highly resistant to change and highly resistant to looking at anything outside of SE as a possible solution to these issues. When Yoshida was brought in to fix FFXIV, it was because of the dumpster fire that was 1.0. SE was desperate and only under such conditions of duress did they finally look to someone outside of the system. At that point he became an insider and it is my opinion that while he had good ideas on how to fix 1.0, his bag of tricks wasn't as deep as would have been necessary to facilitate a proper revamp of other issues such as the glam system and housing. As an insider, he may very well have become under intense pressure to follow the corporate culture. In short, I don't believe he has it within him anymore to be able to fix these issues and I don't think the company is inclined to deal with anything unless we have another full blown 1.0 debacle again. Only then will they once again seek outside help to fix these issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eraden View Post
    I don't think anything will change. The reason for this is that I believe there is a fostered culture of conformity within SE. SE is highly resistant to change and highly resistant to looking at anything outside of SE as a possible solution to these issues. When Yoshida was brought in to fix FFXIV, it was because of the dumpster fire that was 1.0. SE was desperate and only under such conditions of duress did they finally look to someone outside of the system. At that point he became an insider and it is my opinion that while he had good ideas on how to fix 1.0, his bag of tricks wasn't as deep as would have been necessary to facilitate a proper revamp of other issues such as the glam system and housing. As an insider, he may very well have become under intense pressure to follow the corporate culture. In short, I don't believe he has it within him anymore to be able to fix these issues and I don't think the company is inclined to deal with anything unless we have another full blown 1.0 debacle again. Only then will they once again seek outside help to fix these issues.
    Are we just going to ignore how fundamentally different FFXIV is today than in ARR and how much has actually changed?
    Not to mention that people are also complaining about too much change lol.

    Plz, Shadowbringers and Endwalker have had an immensely positive reception.
    Lets not pretend that the game is falling apart ala 1.0 because the glam and housing have issues.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eraden View Post
    Thanks for completely misinterpreting my post. No where in it did I say that the game is currently in the state it was in with 1.0. What I DID say was that the game would have to sink to 1.0 levels again for SE to do anything about it. The problem lies with the corporate culture that SE has fostered. Perhaps try reading the post a bit more carefully next time.
    You were clearly implying that the game is heading towards a 1.0 disaster which is why I said that you're talking about it like it's '' falling apart ala 1.0 ''.
    I didn't say that you were saying that the game is currently in the state it was in 1.0, maybe you should read and post a bit more carefully next time.
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    Last edited by Kolsykol; 04-19-2022 at 01:14 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    Are we just going to ignore how fundamentally different FFXIV is today than in ARR and how much has actually changed?
    Not to mention that people are also complaining about too much change lol.

    Plz, Shadowbringers and Endwalker have had an immensely positive reception.
    Lets not pretend that the game is falling apart ala 1.0 because the glam and housing have issues.
    It's really a weird thing I noticed with the forums that when job changes happen sometimes barely a splash is made, but housing? Oh my god if something goes wrong with housing you'd think this game just imploded and Yoshi executed players on a live letter.

    Not to say anything about validity of criticism but man housing light's a fire under people's butts like nothing else around here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    Are we just going to ignore how fundamentally different FFXIV is today than in ARR and how much has actually changed?
    Not to mention that people are also complaining about too much change lol.

    Plz, Shadowbringers and Endwalker have had an immensely positive reception.
    Lets not pretend that the game is falling apart ala 1.0 because the glam and housing have issues.
    Thanks for completely misinterpreting my post. No where in it did I say that the game is currently in the state it was in with 1.0. What I DID say was that the game would have to sink to 1.0 levels again for SE to do anything about it. The problem lies with the corporate culture that SE has fostered. Perhaps try reading the post a bit more carefully next time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrokentoothMarch View Post
    And, fittingly, I'm not going to stop complaining.

    EDIT: I might sometimes because forum post cap, admittedly, because that's another very intelligent design decision. /s
    Nothing wrong with that. I have a house, but the whole system is dumb. I got my house by luck before they added all these systems. They should have left the existing neighborhoods as is a long time ago and expanded to use instanced housing instead.
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