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    at this point they arent gonna fix anything but this little bug and thats it but housing crisis will continue and nothing will get done. Lets just prepare to be dissapointed and hope something changes in 6-7 years
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverSp View Post
    at this point they arent gonna fix anything but this little bug and thats it but housing crisis will continue and nothing will get done. Lets just prepare to be dissapointed and hope something changes in 6-7 years
    6 or 7 years, that's just to little to late by that point. Though TBF, it's already a little to late.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EthanXdeath View Post
    6 or 7 years, that's just to little to late by that point. Though TBF, it's already a little to late.
    Yeah they arent fixing anything at any point im just pretending to make myself happy even though i know theyre busy with emote renaming
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    I still can't afford to buy or rent a house in RL a lot of us can't and when we can we end up even more broke lol
    Bad example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mango2020 View Post
    I still can't afford to buy or rent a house in RL a lot of us can't and when we can we end up even more broke lol
    Bad example.
    Not exactly the immersive experience I was hoping for.
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    Well, at least we can all be confident that the devs knew what was coming with this patch considering they put housing AND pvp in the same patch. It's sort of like having a truck full of fireworks for a fourth of July Celebration going through California during a forest fire. Everyone knows it's going to explode, so we all just kind of want to see HOW it explodes.

    What boggles the mind with the housing release is that this is a carbon copy launch of Shirogane with a lotto system instead of the original system, and the layout of the wards is almost identical. They needed to make the new wards just all medium / large plots for FCs and if they wanted to include smalls, just make those for private buyers because no one who has an FC is going to want to buy the small. It's like getting a consolation prize that also costs 3 million gil minimum and has about twice the space of a standard log cabin in the middle of no where. My three story town house is only big enough for myself and one other person to live in, and it's probably about as big as a small FC house is once floors are installed and you got the loft and whatever.

    Just because something was done one way in the past does not mean it should be done again and again when the feedback has been at least clear on the US side of things what people want out of the housing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colt47 View Post
    Well, at least we can all be confident that the devs knew what was coming with this patch considering they put housing AND pvp in the same patch. It's sort of like having a truck full of fireworks for a fourth of July Celebration going through California during a forest fire. Everyone knows it's going to explode, so we all just kind of want to see HOW it explodes.

    What boggles the mind with the housing release is that this is a carbon copy launch of Shirogane with a lotto system instead of the original system, and the layout of the wards is almost identical. They needed to make the new wards just all medium / large plots for FCs and if they wanted to include smalls, just make those for private buyers because no one who has an FC is going to want to buy the small. It's like getting a consolation prize that also costs 3 million gil minimum and has about twice the space of a standard log cabin in the middle of no where. My three story town house is only big enough for myself and one other person to live in, and it's probably about as big as a small FC house is once floors are installed and you got the loft and whatever.

    Just because something was done one way in the past does not mean it should be done again and again when the feedback has been at least clear on the US side of things what people want out of the housing.
    we dont know if they even care at this point to be honest
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    As much as I like FFXIV, the housing system feels like it was built originally for the marketing more than for having practical gameplay loops involving housing. FFXI the houses had integral purposes to the game, and they could easily have made it so people could buy a room at the adventurer guilds instead of a house and include all the critical gameplay functions there. They even had a logoff animation in the rooms, where as with housing the beds don't even have a proper function. They definitely care about housing to some degree, or at least care enough to not just burn the entire thing to the ground because that does feel like a viable solution right now. Might make some people angry but if it helps get something better in I'd be for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colt47 View Post
    As much as I like FFXIV, the housing system feels like it was built originally for the marketing more than for having practical gameplay loops involving housing. FFXI the houses had integral purposes to the game, and they could easily have made it so people could buy a room at the adventurer guilds instead of a house and include all the critical gameplay functions there. They even had a logoff animation in the rooms, where as with housing the beds don't even have a proper function. They definitely care about housing to some degree, or at least care enough to not just burn the entire thing to the ground because that does feel like a viable solution right now. Might make some people angry but if it helps get something better in I'd be for it.
    To me if feels like they designed it to be different from housing systems in other games while failing to understand what made housing in those games popular.

    The last thing housing needs to be is "integral" to the game design. At that point it becomes a chore to do instead of content to enjoy. It should be 100% optional content so those who don't want to engage with it don't have to.

    I agree they care about it to some degree or we'd have the original 5 wards, no subdivisions, FC only. But they're still failing to understand what it is that players want out of housing, and how their current design is creating an artificial demand that locks players who genuinely want access out of the content.

    Personally I have no problems with burning the current system to the ground if it was being replaced by something better. The hard part is going to be getting everyone to agree what is better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    To me if feels like they designed it to be different from housing systems in other games while failing to understand what made housing in those games popular.

    The last thing housing needs to be is "integral" to the game design. At that point it becomes a chore to do instead of content to enjoy. It should be 100% optional content so those who don't want to engage with it don't have to.

    I agree they care about it to some degree or we'd have the original 5 wards, no subdivisions, FC only. But they're still failing to understand what it is that players want out of housing, and how their current design is creating an artificial demand that locks players who genuinely want access out of the content.

    Personally I have no problems with burning the current system to the ground if it was being replaced by something better. The hard part is going to be getting everyone to agree what is better.
    at this point i have a feeling its hardware limitations that wont let them make 100 wards with 200 plots each.
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