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  1. #11
    Player
    Naoki34's Avatar
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    Asuka Suzuhana
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mazdamundi324516 View Post
    0 skill 1 shot buttons are fun right?
    1 button ?
    He's a troll

    No skills job ?
    Yes.
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  2. #12
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    drtasteyummy's Avatar
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    Vitalic Oni
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    Twintania
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki34 View Post
    1 button ?
    He's a troll

    No skills job ?
    Yes.
    It's by far the easiest class to play, has a shield, has a 50% damage reduce debuff, has an untargetable ulti that hits for 30k aoe, has a natural combo that hits for 38k minimum in 2,5 seconds all that while having a good amount of health, an escape, all attacks are instant and they have an aoe distance execute.

    their design is a literal bruh moment
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    Last edited by drtasteyummy; 04-19-2022 at 12:23 AM.

  3. #13
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    aeoncs's Avatar
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    Character
    Zael Magnus
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 90
    Their AoE damage, HP scaling damage and Horrid Roar might be in need of a small nerf but other than that their kit is fine. A great DRG certainly isn't as game-changing as a great SAM or NIN simply because they lack cc.


    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    did you try sam before say fake info? no because here i'm wondering...

    sam are not the only one to have an aoe root smn want to talk to you and for use this aoe root you need to use one of your charge. 2 sec stun... we talk of the warrior that can stun in zone? high damage output... midare need to use meikyo a skill for purify for use and ogi damage are divided by the number of target hit. the damage can be either strong or ridicule.
    and the one shoot mechanic need you to hit the sam in a 5 sec windows of a 30 sec cd and need the sam to use lb in the 3 sec you did hit him in this windows... seriously... if with all of this it can't get a os...

    You keep defending SAM with your obvious bias in every thread that so much as mentions the job having balance issues.
    • Yes, SAM isn't the only job with a root or a stun (and Mineuchi lasts for 3 seconds btw, not 2), but it is the only job with a root AND a stun.
    • You don't need to use "a skill for purify" to use Midare. It seems to me like you don't understand what Meikyo Shisui actually does - it doesn't remove cc, it makes you almost completely immune to it for 3 seconds. So yeah, that's kinda a light version of the old Fetter Ward because why not?
    • Ogi also doesn't get divided be the number of targets hit, what are you even talking about? It either deals 12k against single targets or 8k AoE, regardless of how many targets you hit after the second, same as Kaeshi. And that's not even mentioning the shield you get when using it against multiple targets.
    Also, what is your last argument even trying to be? It's super easy for a SAM to trigger Kuzushi considering how many jobs have AoEs as part of their regular kit.
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  4. #14
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    Sylvain's Avatar
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    Sylvestre Solscribe
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ThorneDynasty View Post
    Stop stacking under the crystal, it's not that hard not to be an AOE magnet.
    Even in Diamond people make a Pikachu face after being wiped by a DRG LB while waiting under the crystal that something happens after winning the last squirmish... (Then I run because I'm the only one alive)
    Pretty sure people are as dense in Crystal...
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  5. #15
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    Sylvestre Solscribe
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by aeoncs View Post
    Also, what is your last argument even trying to be?
    Pretty sure he's convinced that SAM are actually underpowered...
    Tbh honest, numbers speak for themselves, you don't see a SAM in both team every games, therefor SAM isn't strong enough.
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  6. #16
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    Arkdra's Avatar
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    Arkadya Dravena
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    DRG LB does need a nerf but only in the sense that the tell should be more obvious and easier to pick out when standing on the crystal in particular.
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  7. #17
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    Josebm's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Jorethor Castas
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 100
    1 shot? what are you talking about, LB? it does 30k damage, if you have 100%hp its nowhere close to one shot anyone lol
    If anything dragoons need a buff, they don't even have a stun lmao
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  8. #18
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    Jorethor Castas
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    Ultros
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    Lancer Lv 100
    Untargetable? with how server tics work in this game nothing is untargetable in pvp.
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    Last edited by Josebm; 04-19-2022 at 02:46 AM. Reason: typo

  9. #19
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    ThorneDynasty's Avatar
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    Gisela Thorne
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    Zodiark
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    What I don't get is how people are failing to predict the DRG will LB if you run in clustered. Of course they are going to when you position like that. I don't need to see a marker to know I shouldn't be one of the fish in the barrel, regardless if the LBs are even ready or not. Making the marker light up like christmas tree is just a ridiculous ask, you won't even be able hit a single person without a CC assist.
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  10. #20
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Josebm View Post
    1 shot? what are you talking about, LB? it does 30k damage, if you have 100%hp its nowhere close to one shot anyone lol
    If anything dragoons need a buff, they don't even have a stun lmao
    No, they need a nerf to Horrid Roar's damage mitigation (50% is too much). That is non-negotiable.

    Quote Originally Posted by ThorneDynasty View Post
    What I don't get is how people are failing to predict the DRG will LB if you run in clustered. Of course they are going to when you position like that. I don't need to see a marker to know I shouldn't be one of the fish in the barrel, regardless if the LBs are even ready or not. Making the marker light up like christmas tree is just a ridiculous ask, you won't even be able hit a single person without a CC assist.
    Primal Rend says hi. Mountain Buster says hi. People caught in the moment and unable to keep track of their surroundings say hi. People who are stacked around the one person preventing the crystal from being moved say hi. There is a LOT of easy ways to catch people off guard and guarantee the hit. A bigger indicator will change nothing.
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    Last edited by RyuDragnier; 04-19-2022 at 03:29 AM.

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