Compiled SAM threads against 6.1 changes / Kaiten removal

[TheDustyOne]

Kaiten also affected Higanbana, so you used it on all Iaijutsu skills.

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[kuroashi_sanji]

I still don't understand why they did it.
Nobody asked for it.

Bring it back, you cowards.

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Is what I would say! If I knew my Hissatsu: Kaiten is coming back this year!!

[ElysiumDragon]

So I had an idea of sorts.

What about Kaiten costing 50 Kenki, but being a Reassemble of sorts for Samurai? The 50% damage buff was originally the core issue, because a non-crit Kaiten'd skill was a feelsbad that contributed to pretty wild variance. But if Kaiten significantly reduced that raw numbers variance, then it could encourage proper Kenki management, and introduce some flair to bursts, and even interact with Ikishoten in interesting ways.

[Godzillaxpowerrangers]

So I had an idea of sorts.

What about Kaiten costing 50 Kenki, but being a Reassemble of sorts for Samurai? The 50% damage buff was originally the core issue, because a non-crit Kaiten'd skill was a feelsbad that contributed to pretty wild variance. But if Kaiten significantly reduced that raw numbers variance, then it could encourage proper Kenki management, and introduce some flair to bursts, and even interact with Ikishoten in interesting ways.

Interesting idea but knowing SE it would be on a 2 minute cool down so would still be poking spam in between.

[RyuuZero]

disagree, Kaiten should be the Introduction Skill of the Kenki Resource, making it cost 50 Kenki kinda defeats the point/frequency of engagement with Kenki as does Shinten do it currently. Since outside of the 2min stuff what are you doing as SAM? the lvl50 Rotation that's what+ Shinten in Boss Fights.. and I hope even the devs realising that the lvl50 rotation for 40 lvls + Shinten isn't fun.

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Compiled Non-Samurai main suggestions
give or take






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