Compiled SAM threads against 6.1 changes / Kaiten removal

[FrogBiscuit]

Says you!

Doesn’t take much to see & just chuckle at your expressions no matter how much you wish to utter out of your thoughts,

Who took the jam out of your donut? lol

You really are a spectacle, arn't you?

You're like the kid in class that is desperate to be notice and have friends, but sadly don't realize that the laughter is directed at you, not with you...


I suppose its good that you have had a pretty light-hearted understanding of the 100% of responses posted in direct criticism of your hypocritical behavior (even if the actual 'understanding' part seems non-existent).

After attempting to express to you why people are responding poorly to you (and clearly failed at providing that perspective) I personally just have been getting a kick out of your overwhelming dedication in telling other people that their opinion is wrong. You have been a broken record (complaining about that very type of behavior) and the sheer levels unawareness shown have been incredible...

No one messed with my doughnut... I have a bag of popcorn here and am awaiting your next, 'me against the world, I am such a victim just for expressing my opinion' entry in your solo crusade against the rest of the SAM player base. I do believe you are getting to the point where you probably can't top yourself on self defeating, unconsciously hypocritical statements... But I am certainly curious to see.

Please don't incorrectly think you have upset me. Your unmatched efforts on posting and responding to this subject has been unrivaled, and you arn't even a passionate SAM player, speaking about a class you even really play... And it has all been a backwards trip through your self defeating insanity that has been quite the show.

By all means... keep up your antics... I don't think you are doing yourself any favors... But you are helping keeping the discontent 6.1 change topic front and center, you have assisted by bumping our topics more then any other poster, and every time you do, it sparks more discussion regarding the SAM 6.1 changes (even when its dying down and even if topic being refreshed often isn't interaction with you).

So really, despite not actually adding anything concept/idea wise to the discussions, you have been SAM's biggest promoter on the NA forums. Thanks for all the assistance in keeping threads active and the comical backwards, self defeating display at the same time.

I mean, SAM players can only tell SE how the changes were wrong in so many ways before it just becomes repetitive, but we don't want the threads/topic to die. You have gone above and beyond in assisting with this issue and even if interaction with you has been nonsensical, it has continued to fuel the discussion.

So, despite being in direct conflict with the words your posts actually contain... Thanks again for your dedication to the SAM threads.

I have simply ignored other toxic posters... But you... Your comical antics I will make an exception for.

[Roxus]

Bringing this thread back up because it's relevant. I'm sure people are hopeful something will change tonight, but big doubts there. Maybe they'll finally have some time to write that statement regarding their reasons for these changes finally after this patch.

[xAFROx]

While I have doubts, I will maintain some semblance of hope for this to be addressed finally.

SAMs of the world, unite!
-sincerely, a Kaitenless fool

[Theodric_Thorne]

If they don't acknowledge the feedback soon and commit to fixing it, I'm unsubbing. I don't think I've done that since Stormblood came out, because SAM revitalized the game for me after I was thoroughly bored with PLD. I know this is a limiting way to play the game, but I just like being a SAM main. None of the other jobs I have tried appeal to me in the same way, you can check my profile to see them all. I haven't tried everything, but I've tried all the jobs that I thought I might like based on aesthetics, playstyle and role.

I don't currently play WoW, but if Retribution paladins felt this bad to play, I would not go back, because that's my main. I don't think I have any other classes at 60 over there right now. I started playing alts more seriously in Legion, but still none of them have clicked with me quite like how Ret paladin does.

If they're going to leave SAM like this, and worse, start making changes like this to other DPS jobs, I see no reason to continue playing FFXIV. I guess if it had to happen, at least I got to finish the Endwalker MSQ first, which is in a way like finishing the game. At least I got to see the end of the original story I started in ARR. I really don't want to leave though. The only other MMOs I'm currently enjoying are rogue servers for dead games, or live servers for other games that are so niche that they will never have XIV's budget and production quality.

[xAFROx]

Well, it was a stretch, and unfortunately it just didn't reach. Then again, minor patch update, no way they could adjust actions in that *cough* pvp got some adjustments....

Still nothing about SAM from the devs.

[Kazimere]

I guess we can expect to see people bump this thread complaining after each patch? It's sad. You all just need to get over it already. Kaiten is gone. Deal with it, pick a new job, or unsub already.

[xAFROx]

I guess we can expect to see people bump this thread complaining after each patch? It's sad. You all just need to get over it already. Kaiten is gone. Deal with it, pick a new job, or unsub already.

I've since swapped to my tank since GNB and SAM were the only things I've leveled so far in EW. Working on other roles for the role quest, but SAM was my main.

I am not going to quit a final fantasy game, but yes... yes, you can expect thread bumps until we get some kind of acknowledgement from the devs that asked us to go to the forums.

SAM complained enough for Hagakure to come back. SCH complained enough for Energy Drain back.

We're going to keep bringing up these topics until it gets addressed.

If that's such a problem for you, you can simply not bother reading the thread yourself. Deal with it, go to a new page, or unsub already.

[Martynek]

People complaining about the complaints should have their main jobs neutered. See how they like it.

[Kazimere]

People complaining about the complaints should have their main jobs neutered. See how they like it.

You're job wasn't neutered. Come off it already.

[Kazimere]

I've since swapped to my tank since GNB and SAM were the only things I've leveled so far in EW. Working on other roles for the role quest, but SAM was my main.

I am not going to quit a final fantasy game, but yes... yes, you can expect thread bumps until we get some kind of acknowledgement from the devs that asked us to go to the forums.

SAM complained enough for Hagakure to come back. SCH complained enough for Energy Drain back.

We're going to keep bringing up these topics until it gets addressed.

If that's such a problem for you, you can simply not bother reading the thread yourself. Deal with it, go to a new page, or unsub already.

Cope harder. Don't see it happening. It's not a problem. I think it's hilarious that you can't get over it. Every argument in favor of Kaiten coming back centers around "feel." Feelings are subjective.