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  1. #1
    Player
    RyuuZero's Avatar
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    May 2014
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Ryu Kusanagi
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Khalitas View Post
    Please add Kaiten back. It's an amazing animation and really added flair to the job.
    Kaiten added flair because it made you able utilize Kenki to Boost your Weaponskills, it's funny to think "uhh just 20 Kenki~" but it was the point, Kaiten wasn't a free cool down (like Life Surge or Fight of Flight), it interacted with the Kenki Gauge!

    Kaiten wasn't just a fancy Animation or a useful Skill, it's also the Reason why Kenki Management exists in the first place.
    (5)

  2. #2
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    xAFROx's Avatar
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    Gin'ei Mikazuki
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuuZero View Post
    Kaiten added flair because it made you able utilize Kenki to Boost your Weaponskills, it's funny to think "uhh just 20 Kenki~" but it was the point, Kaiten wasn't a free cool down (like Life Surge or Fight of Flight), it interacted with the Kenki Gauge!

    Kaiten wasn't just a fancy Animation or a useful Skill, it's also the Reason why Kenki Management exists in the first place.
    And it properly filled the gap between the last gcd and the iaijutsu cast, taking away that awkward moment of nothing in the rotation that existed at level 50. Now that same awkward stutter is back for the whole leveling experience.
    (6)

  3. #3
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    CelestiCer's Avatar
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    6.08 Hissatsu: Kaiten Give it back !!! obviously, mhm.
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    Character
    Celesti Cer
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    Maybe if it was all in one place instead of spread into so many different threads, they might get a better idea of how important it is. There's so much spam about this. No one's going to sit and make a list of all the Kaiten threads and mentions in other threads.
    :| ..........................

    " you mean this? "
    (10)

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    Quor's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Alexya Ultor
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by CelestiCer View Post
    :| ..........................

    " you mean this? "
    Yeah that guy cracked me up too. Perfect example of someone who doesn't browse past the first page. I don't expect people to go ten or twenty pages deep, but to check out the first five isn't a huge deal. To say nothing of using the (actually pretty robust) forum search function they have.
    (9)
    Quote Originally Posted by DRKoftheAzure View Post
    I still wouldn't do it [double weave oGCD's on GNB] because there is a good chance to mess up the rotation and it can easily cause a wipe because of server ticks.

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    CptBraden's Avatar
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    Character
    Braden Williams'
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 80

    Just bring it back bro!

    I just want the move back man, it was one of my top favorite moves for SAM purely for the animation alone. I would literally sit there and watch the animation play out before hitting the next button just so I could enjoy it. Always made me feel badass when I did it, I know what it did and what it’s purpose was but I really loved it just for the animation. Just make Shoha 1 turn into Shoha 2 or another move do the same thing to help with bloat. And honestly I play on ps5 and didn’t have any issues with button bloat at all. Just bring back Kaiten bro, Yoshi pls man!
    (10)

  6. #6
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    AsiTsurugi's Avatar
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    Asi Tsurugi
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    Bumping the thread to remind SE that we still want Kaiten back.
    (12)

  7. #7
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    Flashy's Avatar
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    Location
    Kugane
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    Character
    Party Finder
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    Kaiten is too restrictive to design around. So in preparation of patch 7.0, we've decided to remove Kaiten in 6.1 in order for us to introduce a new ability 16 months later. Please look forward to it
    (15)

  8. #8
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    Wyssahtyn's Avatar
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    Character
    Saika Kinoshita
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Rogue Lv 53
    Y'know, it really opened my eyes to just how fragile the developers' job design has become overall. They keep removing blocks from the job Jenga tower until the thing just collapses, but instead of doing anything else, they just wash their hands of it and move on to something else while ignoring the people they've left with the mess. Used to think, "well surely it'll get better" or "well it could be worse", but that was just deluding myself. "Worse" was making its slow insidious march the entire time.
    (16)

  9. #9
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    Deithwen's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Deithwen Feainnewedd
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 90
    Another bump.
    The job feels so gutted and dumbed down with the removal of Kaiten the Kenki gauge has absolutely no point of existing anymore.

    Please revert the changes, they were not thought through and the consequences are too big to leave it like that.
    (6)

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    Player Mithron's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Mithron Scarlet
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    I hop on SAM, do a Midare, think "this felt better with Kaiten" and then switch to another job
    (12)

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