Thread: Compiled SAM threads against 6.1 changes / Kaiten removal

Originally Posted by Ruminous

Nothing really. You dance like a monkey for the spectacle of all, but the routine's getting tired. By the way, did you even bother reading that post at the top of the page? Bet you didn't.

Nope!

I am awfully distracted lately (had a fractured wrist after hiking).

My bad

Originally Posted by Vencio

Nope!

I am awfully distracted lately (had a fractured wrist after hiking).

My bad

Thought so. Already smacked you down in another thread, but I can do this one too. But you've proven you're willfully blind and a worthless troll, so thanks for that.

Originally Posted by Ruminous

Thought so. Already smacked you down in another thread, but I can do this one too. But you've proven you're willfully blind and a worthless troll, so thanks for that.

Smacked me down? : /

I have no idea what you’re on about.

Originally Posted by Ceridwen

*snip*.

Was observing discussions on the balance discord, among them " Stella " noting out interesting points. I seem to learn a lot from this individual... 1 stood out for me. " SE's inconsistency in job design. "

• Removing Flavor Skills

Kaiten, mostly a flavor skill, removed with 6.1. Reason? button bloat and design restrictions. SE's Reasoning Debunked, but no response to our feedback for months. So? Why only SAM? make it consistent. Remove every flavor skill from all jobs for the same reasons.

• Tackling DPS Variance

SAM got hit with the big Auto-Crit changes. Boring, stale gameplay now. So? Make it consistent. All jobs get fixed the same way with auto crits. NIN has the singular biggest variance hit, while BLM has the Highest variance performance, BLM untouched but not SAM? inconsistency.

• The summary?

I don't want any other job to get worse cause mine got worse, that solves nothing. But where's the consistency from SE?. Either everything Auto-Crits or not. Every job has Flavor skills or not.

Cause it seems like we're just waiting for the next job(s) to be screwed over every expansion/major-patch change. Players hearing the word " rework " from the dev's in fear of how bad its going to be? is a bad tradition instead of expecting SE to care and give equal attention to each job.

I feel the need to say, since I'm leveling Sam in mid-80s now, that I hate Shinten. It's the least satisfying ability imaginable. I'm so glad I got my bunny through this while he still had Kaiten. And indeed, I do keep hitting my former-Kaiten key, which is ok because I replaced it with something reasonable. But Shinten - my relationship to its miserableness is untenable.

Revert!

Originally Posted by CelestiCer

SAM got hit with the big Auto-Crit changes. Boring, stale gameplay now. So? Make it consistent. All jobs get fixed the same way with auto crits. NIN has the singular biggest variance hit, while BLM has the Highest variance performance, BLM untouched but not SAM? inconsistency.

What, "fix blm" by making it have less variance? You know they wouldn't do that... Not as long as its a job the head honcho plays!

Misshapen Chair's new video of every job, while comedic, somehow feels painfully accurate. Tons of Kaiten removal meme's included.

*** " The Only Accurate FFXIV: Endwalker Job Tier List " ***

Larryzaur made a funny video.https://youtu.be/v2Z9rvtNWnQ
Basically how I felt when I was using samurai without kaiten. I still miss kaiten though. I was watching one of my old videos and was just sad that it's gone.

You could also put in original post a fun fact about state of JP forum - SAM megathread had about 190 pages before changes were announced, now it's at 347 pages. That's over 155 pages in just 3.5 months, compared to remaining 190 pages in nearly 5 years. Not the most accurate metric, but it still has some indicative value.