Problem: Achievements

[Altanas]

I think we could do with more achievements sought actively, which are not long term instead they should be reasonable, and which have useful rewards that in themselves would make you seek after these achievements. This could include:

1. Defeat one of every monster type in the world (and at the same time compile your own bestiary/widget) (or even increase this to defeat 100/500/1000 of each monster type in the world) (with useful rewards such as increased attack or defence against that monster type toggable by equipping an achievement title)

2. Defeat NM and if it drops its item then you get the achievement (this could tie into player housing later on, letting people have a stuffed head/carcas of an NM for their home lol)

3. Synthesize one of every item/recipe from 1-50 for your craft (and at the same time compile your own recipe book/widget)

4. Discover all items obtainable by gathering per area (and at the same time you would fill in a gathering index/widget) (quite easy, so lets bump that up to gather 100/200/etc of each item) (it would be similar to the current gathering achievements, but when broken down into these smaller chunks it doesnt have that "oh god..." feeling)

[Kiroh]

Looks like the OP hasn't checked out the Hamlet Defense Achievements. *cough*complete each hamlet defense 5,000 times*cough*

[Daku_Naito]

Looks like the OP hasn't checked out the Hamlet Defense Achievements. *cough*complete each hamlet defense 5,000 times*cough*

Yeah, I should have mentioned that one. That is definitely not feasible. But maybe Hamlet will be more important later on.

I think we could do with more achievements sought actively, which are not long term instead they should be reasonable, and which have useful rewards that in themselves would make you seek after these achievements. This could include:

1. Defeat one of every monster type in the world (and at the same time compile your own bestiary/widget) (or even increase this to defeat 100/500/1000 of each monster type in the world) (with useful rewards such as increased attack or defence against that monster type toggable by equipping an achievement title)

2. Defeat NM and if it drops its item then you get the achievement (this could tie into player housing later on, letting people have a stuffed head/carcas of an NM for their home lol)

3. Synthesize one of every item/recipe from 1-50 for your craft (and at the same time compile your own recipe book/widget)

4. Discover all items obtainable by gathering per area (and at the same time you would fill in a gathering index/widget) (quite easy, so lets bump that up to gather 100/200/etc of each item) (it would be similar to the current gathering achievements, but when broken down into these smaller chunks it doesnt have that "oh god..." feeling)

Needless to say I agree with you.

[Masamune1004]

I think you are missing the point. Achievements aren't meant to be done randomly through time, they are meant to be achieved for. You should shoot for them. If no one is shooting for certain achievements, then there is something wrong.

Just because you aren't working toward it, doesn't mean it wasn't achieved.

[Kiroh]

Just because you aren't working toward it, doesn't mean it wasn't achieved.

I think what they're saying is that achievements should be something you're excited to go out and do, rather than something that just happens after 2 or 3 years of mindless grinding on repetitive content.

[Daku_Naito]

I think what they're saying is that achievements should be something you're excited to go out and do, rather than something that just happens after 2 or 3 years of mindless grinding on repetitive content.

Exactly. And most the stuff I am talking about won't even come with time. Especially since a lot was already done by when the achievements came through.

[Madruk]

These are basically "grats you played this game too long" achievements. What's the big deal there's a ton more and they mean absolutely nothing for the most part anyway.

[Delsus]

How is making me go for 4,000 gatherings at each area done through time, same with levequest? That has to be sought after, the problem is, no one is doing it. i will say, people are doing the 4,000 gatherings, because a item, or something they think is worthwhile is being obtained. For most of the achievements I was talking about, this simply isn't true.

If you level goldsmith you will use electrum, and possibly gold, if you lvl blacksmith you willl use iron and cobalt.

If you SB alot with miner and goldsmith leveled you will go through alot of electrum ores to make ingots, if you are an archer and make your own arrows you will go through alot of cobalt ores, and for both of those easily hit 4k.

Or if you are going for gil, currently both NQ electrum and cobalt sell for 3k each, thats over 300k a stack, go out and mine 4k times for both and you will be swimming in gil. I have Mining your own business: Thanalan V, all from wanting to make gil and now I'm going for my lumi.

[Ryuko]

Despite how time-consuming some of them are, people are still going for them.

I was out at Nophica's Wells the other day leveling my botanist when I realized that there were at least 5 other botanists out there with me... but they weren't level 30 like I was; they were 50. Nothing incredibly rare or expensive comes from those nodes, so they MUST HAVE been grinding for the achievement. It is definitely hard, but doable.

My only complaint about synthesis versus gathering is the fact that the synthesis items are A LOT easier to obtain because the achievements are much less time consuming. You don't have to move and you could "Hasty Hand" yourself through most of the synths... but as a gatherer, you're constantly on the move, and eventually you will run those nodes dry... so it's not even like you can stick with one path and rotate forever. And not only that... you need to gather all 5 ranks in THREE separate lands. If the synthesis requirements were higher, or the gathering requirements were lower, I wouldn't complain... but I do think the differences is a bit unrealistic.

As for the other achievements... 'gillionaire' etc, I think those are fine. People will only achieve them in a few years... and this game has MANY years to go. Don't expect to get them right away.

[Noir]

omg i can't get this achievement next week, this game sucks.

They have to find something to whine about lol.

My only complain is about the items you get. That shield for company seals is GARBAGE