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  1. #1
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    Brodonkadon's Avatar
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    Pulmah Fyngur
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    Adamantoise
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    Machinist Lv 90

    CC without Group Matchmaking is miserable

    Please add party matchmaking to Crystaline Conflict. An MMO with PvP that you have to go into alone is actually a joke. We have no comms, no flow and broken unequal matching in the first place. They give you a makeshift selection of quick chat options because they're afraid to open up chat comms and let people be responsible for what they say in a video game. You have absolutely no role synergy between teams and either get smoked or stalemate up until OT just to get a buggy victory or defeat.

    I understand the start of CC is beta and still requires SOOO MUCH balancing but for the love of God at least let us enjoy this mess with our friends. I'd rather bounce between Gold 4 and 1 for 8 hours with them than by myself.
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    Raistlin's Avatar
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    Raistlin Majere
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    Ragnarok
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Sure, but not ranked... well u can party find for that and then custom game right?

    If u allow ranked teams have to be a separate rank for 5v5 and another if they add 3v3.
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    Sylvestre Solscribe
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    Ragnarok
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Not ranked and no rewards so that it's purely for fun and people can't make pre-made trade or pre-made "loose in 1min" to pile up rewards.

    Always the same drill anyway. Things have to be restriced because some people can't refrain themselves from cheating or exploiting the system.
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  4. #4
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    Silly Rabbit
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    Phoenix
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    Ninja Lv 90
    I'm all for having options. They could add casual match(team) where you can join with 2,3 or 5 people. Tho expect longer ques and 5 man teams formed from Ultimate statics that absolutely demolish opposition.
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  5. #5
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    Pulmah Fyngur
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    Machinist Lv 90
    This no ranked argument makes absolutely no sense. What other competitive game with PvP or MMO blocks party matchmaking?? If you have a party of 5, you take the hit on queue time and wait to match with another party of 5, literally simple as that. Even in solo queue people will exploit and cheat, so that point is invalid. If people exploit and cheat, report them and SE should do their job and take action. God I was so excited for this mode and it's such a let down so far.
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    Player Mithron's Avatar
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    Mithron Scarlet
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    Gilgamesh
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Strict solo queue or 5 premade vs 5 premade. Nothing else. I do not want to lose because my enemies are premade but I'm just solo and don't feel like committing my schedule to others just to win. I want my solo skill to be the main factor of what determines the outcome of a match, not if I'm playing with friends or not.
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  7. #7
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    Ailin Dorne
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    Brynhildr
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Mithron View Post
    Strict solo queue or 5 premade vs 5 premade. Nothing else. I do not want to lose because my enemies are premade but I'm just solo and don't feel like committing my schedule to others just to win. I want my solo skill to be the main factor of what determines the outcome of a match, not if I'm playing with friends or not.
    Which given the limited job actions is already not the case. You could be the second coming of christ himself your skills cannot solo carry if your teammates dont play well. Theres no room for 1v5 hero plays like in OW with how job design is at present.
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    Qoo Er
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    Sargatanas
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    i just want to play with friends. or even ONE friend. if its such a big deal that people get upset for losing or whatever then let us queue so that we're in the same match but not necessarily in the same party.


    also want to mention that you CAN manipulate duty finder to (inconsitently) queue with friends. limit your duty finder language settings and queue at the same time, and most of the time youll be in the same match (and sometimes party) as your friend. so this hurdle doesnt really stop whatever its trying to stop, and its really just a huge inconvenience for people that want to play with their friends in an mmo
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    Player Mithron's Avatar
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    Mithron Scarlet
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    Gilgamesh
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Qeilos View Post
    Which given the limited job actions is already not the case. You could be the second coming of christ himself your skills cannot solo carry if your teammates dont play well. Theres no room for 1v5 hero plays like in OW with how job design is at present.
    Correct, but allowing any premade vs. solo players will make this significantly more worse than it already is.
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    Vavali Vali
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    Balmung
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    Dancer Lv 90
    I feel like the people that want it for casual but not ranked are going against their own idea that premades stomp newbies.
    Like, wouldn't ranked be the place to do it then? Ranked is for the sweatlords to drip their pits and try to win consistently and improve. A team makes that process more stable.
    If it's just for casual, the casual mode would then have more instances of a stack just dumpstering on newbies trying to just have fun. Solo Q is fine for the random fun factor of the casual game modes, but it's frustrating when you're really trying to improve.

    Also, it's kind of already happening. People as of right now just que at the same time and usually get the same game, with the exception of they can be on opposing teams which can lead to instances of throwing for their friends. It feels like it's already an inconsistent and worse version of party que. I feel for people who feel like they want to play ranked but don't have a team, but even just one other person on comms can make the process much much more consistent to rank up in. If all else fails, we do have party finder just to find people to communicate with and get better.

    People aren't asking for 5 man que to just trash on newbies, they're asking for it because competition can thrive more in consistent stable environments. Unfortunately, that's just not what solo que offers to a lot of competitive people. Admittedly, the fact that the only rewards ranked gives is just plates and stuff that just flex your prior rank is good because it lets people just enjoy that kind of competition.
    If people want to just play the game and enjoy the randomness, I'd say casual is a great place to do that.

    So, for me, it feels like people got it backwards. I often hear people say casual should allow party que, but competitive shouldn't. It should be the other way, right?
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