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    Take away ranked until fixed

    Take out ranked until you fix matchmaking and the exploiters. As devs you should be embarrased.
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    I am sorry, but i have to.

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    Legit question, how is it being exploited?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barachim View Post
    Legit question, how is it being exploited?
    I'm only in Plat 1-2 (depends on the streak xD)
    What I've noticed, which could also be explained by skill but the skillgap seems too big going from Gold
    - People seem to heal themselves in a pinch or cleanse themselves "a bit too fast" if you see what I mean.
    For instance, while it doesn't happen all the time, as a MCH a combo I like to do is Wildfire > x2 Blast Charge > Analysis Drill + LB. The Drill will trigger the Wildcharge which will explode for 16k, the Drill does 18k, the sniper does 36k. Assuming no dmg reduction that is 70k and all of this will happen within 1s. (the 2 first blast charge are just weak pok dmg to setup the combo, I'm not counting them). In the mess of a battle, what are the odds that you'll perfectly time a heal between those 34k and 36k in order to survive with 10% hp? There's skill, there's random luck... but I've found some people, quite often the same actually (since you can recognize peopel now and that I often see the same players) surviving way too well that combo.
    Same for the cleanse, when I do Analisis+Anchor you're rooted for 3s. Human reaction time is about 0.2s. Well, again, some player, usually the same that always heal in a pinch, seem to sometime be immune to the root. I see the root debuff, it just wears off in an instant.

    And again, it's often the same players that seem to do everything perfect (weird that they're not crystal tbh, like how bad do you have to be to not be in crystal with basically deadlybossmod + addons playing for you)

    I've read about speed hack and mp regen hack too (ramping up the mp regen ever so slightly that enemies won't notice it but will allow you to heal yourself several more times over the course of a fight). Havn't seen the speed. Can't say about the mp, I don't notice a 10 or 15% mp regen difference. But I know it would be game changing as there are many situation I would have survive with just 500 more mp.

    Other "hack" which are more UI option are trigger for NIN, SAM, MCH ult (50% hp, debuff triggered, -36k effectively health includign buff+debuff).
    Someone mentionned an addon that prevent you to fail your LB, for instance it would unbind my LB if the target is under Guard and above 3600hp.

    It's plenty of little things that just ruin the experience.

    I'm still having a lot of fun, but I wish they'd find a way to monitor that.

    I don't understand the issue of detecting the speed hack so I can't comment on that one. Highlight are just ACT overlay so realistically there's nothing they can do. Like they're basically triggers and because it goes check things directly into the RAM there's nothing that can be done from what I understand.
    But the mp booster? like... everyone regain the exact same amount of mp every 3s while in / out of combat (more out). It really shouldn't be hard at all to implement a check on that to see if players regained more mp than intended.
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    Last edited by Sylvain; 04-17-2022 at 06:37 PM.

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    Thanks for the detailed explanation. Might have to pay more attention to the next couple matches.
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    Fei Soulstar
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    Lich
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    There's a couple plugins/addons that have been released and give you timer/visuals on players skills' cooldown and such. There's also report of speedhack and other fun but i've personally haven't seen any yet.
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    They had auto-interrupt bots for Feast that would instantly stun/silence specific abilities, as well as auto-Purify so such things being present in CC doesn't surprise me in the slightest.
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    Katuchi La-chancla
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    Moogle
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    yes PvP is already ruined.
    I've seen people instant cleanse themselve when i use anchor on them, like, it's impossible to have such fast reaction time...
    There's also people instantly healing themself or poping the shield or instantly stun me right as i press a powerfull ability on my keyboard, like, one time it may be a coincidence but not when it happen multiple times...
    This new PvP is really a mess
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    Do not get my above post wrong, i am disgusted by people who cheat in online games or buy themselves Ranks/titles in PvP or Ultimate.

    But man it is not the Devs fault that people fall that low as to resort to such methods. Sadly, they have to deal with it wich takes Time away from other things.
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