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    Do the Japanese community use the Translator at all?

    I've come to learn that whenever I see a shout in Uldah, whoever is using [Looking for Members] [Please invite me], is always a member of the English speaking community.
    I very rarely see the Japanese using the translator.

    I'm curious to those that speak both languages, is it because the translator does not translate very nicely into Japanese? Like when I use [Experience Points] [You can have this], does it really translate well? Or is it incomprehensible what we're trying to say?

    My point of using the translator when shouting is so that the Japanese can understand, and thus, it reaches a greater audience. But they don't seem to think the same. I start to feel like when they don't use translator, that we're being intentionally excluded from what they're advertising.
    Thoughts?
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    very little would use it unless desparate 4 member to do content.
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    It's language barrier. Do they understand what you are trying to say? yes.
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    Just because they can understand what you want to do doesn't mean they are going to want to do it with you. When it comes to actually doing the content, an auto translator isn't going to help very much. It's hard to explain with an auto translator "you need to stand on this little crack in the ground and don't cast any spells or skills until ifrit uses his skills."
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    I've been invited to JP groups because I shouted using the translator, so i'd say it works just fine.
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    JP ONRY . That's why.
    Most of them understand but they don't bother party with NA players.
    kinda like bad experience from pick up group that cause a trauma from FFXI back then
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    I've been invited to JP groups because I shouted using the translator, so i'd say it works just fine.
    same

    and its not like english players dont descriminate too...... this is nothing new

    some players just want to be able to talk without a language barier, you really cant fault them for it

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    Its because they will be communicating in Japanese in the party, if you cannot understand a shout for something you will not unterstand what they are going to do, take Garuda, you can't say "Stand behind this rock and check where she moves for minstral shreak, then move round the rock so its blocks her attack." in auto translate. Because of this the Japanese don't invite many none Japanese speakers because they will need to know what to do, and I have been in PUGs where people do not know what they are doing.

    Its just the language barrier nothing else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    Its because they will be communicating in Japanese in the party, if you cannot understand a shout for something you will not unterstand what they are going to do, take Garuda, you can't say "Stand behind this rock and check where she moves for minstral shreak, then move round the rock so its blocks her attack." in auto translate. Because of this the Japanese don't invite many none Japanese speakers because they will need to know what to do, and I have been in PUGs where people do not know what they are doing.

    Its just the language barrier nothing else.
    I guess for Garuda or Ifrit fights or anything complicated it is understandable. But experience points you can mostly get away with it. I'm not blaming them for not wanting to party with English speaking players. I was just wondering whether there's another reason (such as translator not translating well, etc). And also it's very curious that NA/EU players keep using the translator when we ask for invites for Garuda or Ifrit, just in case that lone JP out there would give it a shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hycinthus View Post
    I guess for Garuda or Ifrit fights or anything complicated it is understandable. But experience points you can mostly get away with it. I'm not blaming them for not wanting to party with English speaking players. I was just wondering whether there's another reason (such as translator not translating well, etc). And also it's very curious that NA/EU players keep using the translator when we ask for invites for Garuda or Ifrit, just in case that lone JP out there would give it a shot.
    For exp parties, if a JP shouts using the auto translate, they could get all english speakers, and therefore cannot communicate well, I for one like small talk in parties, if this lone JP who started wants to socialise then the logical thing to do is shout in Japanese, so they can socialise, small talk does not work well in auto translate, believe me i have tried.
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