Dev Harassment is concerning

[Raoabolic]

but until we hear stories like that coming from them then Im not holding them accountable for that kind of speculation.

No, people are just holding them accountable for the lack of QA and less content per patch while adding more and more to the mogshop. It's really a simple concept, lol.

[Ryaz]

No, people are just holding them accountable for the lack of QA and less content per patch while adding more and more to the mogshop. It's really a simple concept, lol.

Please direct me to this less content per patch outside of losing a dungeon? Because we got a shit ton of stuff this patch from a decent sized MSQ patch, Adventure Plates, an overhauled PvP system, a new Alliance Raid, the Hatching Tide event, with more to come in 6.11 and 6.15. And there's plenty of in game items to earn compared to the mogstation stuff.

[Atelier-Bagur]

No, people are just holding them accountable for the lack of QA and less content per patch while adding more and more to the mogshop. It's really a simple concept, lol.

True but still the lesser of two evils here.

[Raoabolic]

Please direct me to this less content per patch outside of losing a dungeon? Because we got a shit ton of stuff this patch from a decent sized MSQ patch, Adventure Plates, an overhauled PvP system, a new Alliance Raid, the Hatching Tide event, with more to come in 6.11 and 6.15. And there's plenty of in game items to earn compared to the mogstation stuff.

Just use the search function. The debate has been done to death and to be honest, if the lack of content was that bad then I wouldn't be posting here. What most are saying is that there has been decline since HW with bumps here and there. The PvP update was pretty sick and I wish they would show that much effort in other areas of the game. Hopefully the devs are realizing some issues but the fact they are simplifying the game further makes me think the PvP team deserves a raise for showing up the PvE team in how to keep classes unique, lol.

[Theodric]

One recent example of less content is the decision to delay the release of the new beast tribe quests and custom delivery NPC. In the past, they were included with the initial load of new content when a patch first went live. Now they're being held back a month just to pad out the wait until 6.2 because there really isn't much else set to be added until 6.2 for the majority of players.

What's interesting is that both pieces of content are weekly tasks and as such would be beneficial being released sooner rather than later. Especially since they're meant to be catch up mechanisms for gaining experience.

More content along the lines of the new PvP mode that people can just jump into whenever they like would be wonderful. Especially if the development team can find ways to avoid it dying out after the initial rush.

[KizuyaKatogami]

It just seems folks forget the dev team is full of human beings that can and will make mistakes. Some are willing to work with them and empathize while others expect perfection and will rag if thats not met.
People siding with devs aren't whiteknights. People saying the devs are perfect are.
Or everyone cares to join the negative brigade and they shouldn't be labeled for that. Criticism is fine. Being an arse is not

The problem is it’s not just one or two mistakes. It’s MANY.
Between the horrible launch where people couldn’t even log on for the early release, and the devs still thinking it was fine to officially launch the game at that time when they had already seen in early release the servers were breaking….i mean that’s literally what early release is for, and instead they decided to be greedy.

Then we get to the healer problems, the gutting, the lack of engagement even after 6 years, then we get to the new hrothgar hairs that players have been waiting patiently for 3 years and theyre such a shit show even the devs were laughing about it on stream. Then to the just, overall treatment of both limited races and the lack of headgear etc,i mean viera can’t even wear the new pvp helmet. How are you gonna lock an entire set behind a pretty hefty grind, and then not make it fully accessible to an entire race. Then now we get to the housing problems. It’s starting to boil over, the game is making record profits, it set record player count, yet we’re seeing less and less quality as the expansion goes on, we’re seeing devs laughing at things that…it’s just plain disrespectful. It truly does seem like they don’t care at this point.

Please direct me to this less content per patch outside of losing a dungeon? Because we got a shit ton of stuff this patch from a decent sized MSQ patch, Adventure Plates, an overhauled PvP system, a new Alliance Raid, the Hatching Tide event, with more to come in 6.11 and 6.15. And there's plenty of in game items to earn compared to the mogstation stuff.

We literally didn’t get 89 dungeon gear this expansion, which has never happened any other expansion. We didn’t get our pvp set from wolf marks this expansion yet, we got the others in x.1.(the set in the new pvp rewards is the equivalent of a feast set afaik). We didn’t get a tataru glam in ShB and the one we got this expansion was a reused set. In SB samurai and rdm both got level 50/60/70 primal weapons. Dnc,Gnb,Sage,and Rpr still do not.The p4s raid does not have a change in boss theme for the second phase, its all the same song.

[IdowhatIwant]

Please direct me to this less content per patch outside of losing a dungeon? Because we got a shit ton of stuff this patch from a decent sized MSQ patch, Adventure Plates, an overhauled PvP system, a new Alliance Raid, the Hatching Tide event, with more to come in 6.11 and 6.15. And there's plenty of in game items to earn compared to the mogstation stuff.

It isn't any different than any other x.1 patches either. The only special thing we got outside the norm was the adventure plates. I won't count pvp cause this is like the 4th time it was revamped. And although it's the best pvp we have had so far, it's still not very good over all when compared to other games. Hatching tide even is not patch related, it just happened to fall on the patch date, it would have happened regardless.

[xenahawk]

“We have to send death threats or they’ll become Wow ):”

This is ridiculous.

Yeah forums treat wow devs the same way. Unfortuately people feel more brazin and want to feel like tough guys because well less consequence for their actions.

[IkaraGreydancer]

The problem is it’s not just one or two mistakes. It’s MANY.
Between the horrible launch where people couldn’t even log on for the early release, and the devs still thinking it was fine to officially launch the game at that time when they had already seen in early release the servers were breaking….i mean that’s literally what early release is for, and instead they decided to be greedy.

Then we get to the healer problems, the gutting, the lack of engagement even after 6 years, then we get to the new hrothgar hairs that players have been waiting patiently for 3 years and theyre such a shit show even the devs were laughing about it on stream. Then to the just, overall treatment of both limited races and the lack of headgear etc,i mean viera can’t even wear the new pvp helmet. How are you gonna lock an entire set behind a pretty hefty grind, and then not make it fully accessible to an entire race. Then now we get to the housing problems. It’s starting to boil over, the game is making record profits, it set record player count, yet we’re seeing less and less quality as the expansion goes on, we’re seeing devs laughing at things that…it’s just plain disrespectful. It truly does seem like they don’t care at this point.

Yeah because I guess them saying they've had difficulty acquiring servers months prior isn't good enough. They had just pop them out of thin air because "rich corpo". Again that's not how that works and they've been VERY open about that fact yet you'd call them greedy.
Far as the new races go I've said it before that they need work. There's no refuting that. But it's literally a helmet. I'll take the loses (for now) and be glad at least most of the set can be worn. Idk what's going on behind the scenes that makes those races hard to work with so I'm not gonna hope on the hate train and judge.
SE handles the money, not Yoshi P. If xiv isn't getting the funding it needs it isn't his fault. And you speak of quality yet the story and content we've gotten has all been just that. Housing? That's a blip for sure, but again human error is a concept. The devs aren't machines. They're people who make mistakes. But again that's not good enough.
Classes being gutted. I'll admit I'm not a fan of this. But I also don't think its the end of the world like many others. It's very clear they want to lower the bar of entry with classes to appeal to the masses. I can't exactly fault them for that.

All in all you're taking this personally when you don't need to and painting the game in a far worse light than it really is in imo

[Manofpassion]

Yeah because I guess them saying they've had difficulty acquiring servers months prior isn't good enough. They had just pop them out of thin air because "rich corpo". Again that's not how that works and they've been VERY open about that fact yet you'd call them greedy.
Far as the new races go I've said it before that they need work. There's no refuting that. But it's literally a helmet. I'll take the loses (for now) and be glad at least most of the set can be worn. Idk what's going on behind the scenes that makes those races hard to work with so I'm not gonna hope on the hate train and judge.
SE handles the money, not Yoshi P. If xiv isn't getting the funding it needs it isn't his fault. And you speak of quality yet the story and content we've gotten has all been just that. Housing? That's a blip for sure, but again human error is a concept. The devs aren't machines. They're people who make mistakes. But again that's not good enough.
Classes being gutted. I'll admit I'm not a fan of this. But I also don't think its the end of the world like many others. It's very clear they want to lower the bar of entry with classes to appeal to the masses. I can't exactly fault them for that.

All in all you're taking this personally when you don't need to and painting the game in a far worse light than it really is in imo

Its not just one helmet though, is it. It is without a doubt the majority of helmets in the game. 2 years, and we can't even say the devs have made a significant amount of the helmets wearable of the new races. We can still only just say they made a small amount of them wearable. I know there was covid, but shadowbringers was released in 2019. Like, if 4 years to give races hats is too much of a problem for them, I don't really know what to say. I believe them when it says its hard, but Modders have literally done it. I'm aware there will be more burecracy in a corpo like square but 4 years? That's hard to defend.

I am not a hroth or Viera but being thankful that most of the set can be worn is an absurd notion to me. What, the viera, who just use a long midlander body, and the hroths, who just use a hunched roe body, and we should be glad the devs managed to grace us with wearable shoes and pants? I am not glad that they give the shb races wearable shoes and pants. I expect them to, along with helmets. Are they gonna make us wait another 4 years, or give us more jellybean hair. Probably both.