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  1. #131
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    It just seems folks forget the dev team is full of human beings that can and will make mistakes. Some are willing to work with them and empathize while others expect perfection and will rag if thats not met.
    People siding with devs aren't whiteknights. People saying the devs are perfect are.
    Or everyone cares to join the negative brigade and they shouldn't be labeled for that. Criticism is fine. Being an arse is not
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  2. #132
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackmagebro View Post
    Hello all!

    I am new to posting here and I'm not sure if this is the appropriate place for this but I feel its necessary to be said regardless. I've seen quite a lot of heated discussions about the player housing situation and a few other past events where players have felt slighted or in some way inconvenienced and overwhelmingly people have been voicing their frustrations in a way that seems a tad overkill. Frustration is one thing but calling devs names or being hysterical about this or any situation does nothing but cause real people to be stressed out. I know we often laud the dev team and Yoshi-P especially but the opposite can be true too. Very bi-polar which is to be expected from such a large MMO audience.

    I hope people who read this can voice their frustrations more gently and constructively in the future. I'm sorry you were inconvenienced but this is a game that you enjoy and its a career that game devs slave at to make. the disparity between our commitments is immeasurable. They want to make the best game they can and believing otherwise is foolish. I don't mean this to be another "praise Yoshi-P!" post so please understand that I just think our collective voices when compounded have a very drastic effect on real people and we should act accordingly.

    TL;DR stop being mean pls
    "Stop being mean"
    > going on a tirade in the very same post you make being toxic and "Mean" to others
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  3. #133
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lecru View Post
    "Stop being mean"
    > going on a tirade in the very same post you make being toxic and "Mean" to others
    Um...a tirade? Idk if that's an apt description
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  4. #134
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    Quote Originally Posted by Claviusnex View Post
    Then it seems to me people like the OP should be bringing the subject up on the social media where the transgressions are occurring not here on the forums where I have yet to see the type of vitriol you get on the open web.
    On that, I do agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Packetdancer
    The healer main's struggle for pants is both real, and unending. Be strong, sister. #GiveUsMorePants2k20 #HealersNotRevealers #RandomOtherSleepDeprivedHashtagsHere
    I aim to make my posts engaging and entertaining, even when you might not agree with me. And failing that, I'll just be very, VERY wordy.

  5. #135
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    Quote Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer View Post
    It just seems folks forget the dev team is full of human beings that can and will make mistakes.
    Wish my job was this forgiving, lol. Screw up too many times, you are out on your butt!
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  6. #136
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    Wish my job was this forgiving, lol. Screw up too many times, you are out on your butt!
    Yet we have a bunch of jobs in our American society were people have done FAR worse things yet they still keep their jobs.

    This analogy doesnt work anymore.
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  7. #137
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Yet we have a bunch of jobs in our American society were people have done FAR worse things yet they still keep their jobs.

    This analogy doesnt work anymore.
    And everyone complains about the lack of quality everywhere. Surely there isn't a pattern or anything that can easily be noticed, right? :^)
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  8. #138
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    And everyone complains about the lack of quality everywhere. Surely there isn't a pattern or anything that can easily be noticed, right? :^)
    Theres a threshold where if the person in charge is willing and capable of owning up and fixing their mistakes then they should be given the chance. Thats my ideal take when it comes to people in the workforce.

    However if you have those that do stupid things, have no care for their work, have caused far more grief and damage to their job, yet still get rewarded and dont face consequences (aka A CERTAIN CEO OF ACTIVISION) then this is where they should be fired immediately. Yet we dont see that happen.
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  9. #139
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    (aka A CERTAIN CEO OF ACTIVISION).
    You DO know that many consider SE the Actiblizz of Japan, right? lol
    Though personally speaking, Bamco is not that far behind imo, but that's more of a quality issue than a nickle and dime issue.
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  10. #140
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    You DO know that many consider SE the Actiblizz of Japan, right? lol
    Though personally speaking, Bamco is not that far behind imo, but that's more of a quality issue than a nickle and dime issue.
    I dont see or hear news of people in SE going around harrassing their employees, sharing nudes, threatening people with death threats and stealing breast milk. Not gonna pretend that shady stuff dont or cant happen in the workforce of SE but until we hear stories like that coming from them then Im not holding them accountable for that kind of speculation.
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