Dev Harassment is concerning

[Vahlnir]

OP: QQ be nice to the devs! (which, BTW, I don’t patently disagree with lmao)

Also OP: YOU’RE ALL IDIOTS, INGRATES, DISRESPECTFUL BRATS, YOU DESERVE TO GET HARASSED, YOU’RE ALL WORTHLESS BLAH BLAH BLAH

Pick a side, are you an “UwU Devs Work Hard” softboi or are you a toxic individual with no spine?

They are both in my opinion.

[Serenitey]

I don't think blaming the frustrated people is the way to go. I think that just adds to it. (No, I did not try to get a house this round.) I just think this speaks to the fact that housing situation in general needs a huge overhaul.

[Zorvan]

From what I hear, it was Japanese customers who sent actual knives with threats to the devs. Maybe learn a second language and go remind them to cool off.

[Kaurhz]

One thing to keep in mind is that feedback and comments made to developers aren't exclusively posted within, or on social media, but can be through a variety of outlets. Yoshida has already in the past commented about developer harassment.

Whilst this doesn't outright state death threats, the community on this forum was pretty universal in thought that it was eluding to such. Perhaps out of genuine fact, or to try and excuse/detract from their own abrasive comments in the past.

[PaulH]

i almost wish for the days when autoexec.bat and config.sys were the only things we had to battle to make a game work.

[AscendentBlue]

Now you're talkin'! Although I expect 95% of the folks in this forum will be thinking "What the ....?"

[GomezAddams]

Hello all!

I am new to posting here and I'm not sure if this is the appropriate place for this but I feel its necessary to be said regardless. I've seen quite a lot of heated discussions about the player housing situation and a few other past events where players have felt slighted or in some way inconvenienced and overwhelmingly people have been voicing their frustrations in a way that seems a tad overkill. Frustration is one thing but calling devs names or being hysterical about this or any situation does nothing but cause real people to be stressed out. I know we often laud the dev team and Yoshi-P especially but the opposite can be true too. Very bi-polar which is to be expected from such a large MMO audience.

I hope people who read this can voice their frustrations more gently and constructively in the future. I'm sorry you were inconvenienced but this is a game that you enjoy and its a career that game devs slave at to make. the disparity between our commitments is immeasurable. They want to make the best game they can and believing otherwise is foolish. I don't mean this to be another "praise Yoshi-P!" post so please understand that I just think our collective voices when compounded have a very drastic effect on real people and we should act accordingly.

TL;DR stop being mean pls

There are plenty of us who are trying our best to be constructive in our criticism, but as someone new, you also need to understand just how long we've been waiting for this fiasco they just sprung on us. Content has become quite lackluster, and they are only giving us a mere fraction of what they've provided in the past. If you had been here all along, you'd see a company that's now trying to cut corners and alienate a large portion of their player base, all while raking in record profits from their largest subscriber base ever. In other words, we've been told to bend over and take it without any lube when they renigg on their promises and fail to deliver the paid-for amount of content.

Take it with a grain of salt. A lot of us are about to give SE the boot if they don't get it together. We aren't getting what we're paying for. It's business, and nothing personal.

[Fukuro]

I just don‘t understand what this has to do with the complaints recently? They have been pretty civil so far. It is clear people are fed up with some of the decisions SE has made, and as long as these complaints are constructive there is no problem. However, there seems to be a hive mentality within people within this community that equals constructive criticism with wishing death upon the devs. It seems like they want to nip every complaint in the bud. It kind of reminds me of „There is no war in Ba sing se“.

[Packetdancer]

I just don‘t understand what this has to do with the complaints recently? They have been pretty civil so far. It is clear people are fed up with some of the decisions SE has made, and as long as these complaints are constructive there is no problem. However, there seems to be a hive mentality within people within this community that equals constructive criticism with wishing death upon the devs. It seems like they want to nip every complaint in the bud. It kind of reminds me of „There is no war in Ba sing se“.

Stuff doesn't have to be literal death threats to be kinda over the top. I haven't seen many death threats, and thankfully none on these forums -- though the number I have seen is still non-zero, which is depressing even if also unsurprising -- but I've seen a weirdly high number of posts (on Twitter and various other places, and a few even here on these forums) saying the lottery was rigged and a scam, and that the individual programmers responsible should be taken to court and sued for real-money compensation that should be split among people who failed to get a house, or even that the individual developers should be jailed for fraud. While those aren't threats of violence, they still seem a demand for action against the devs that's a bit out-of-proportion to the actual issue at hand.

(Though I suspect it's because it feels like a financial hit, given how expensive housing can be in-game. So maybe it hits the same part of the brain where you get denied something you were saving real money for? I dunno.)

Anger's okay, and understandable. Demanding answers is okay... and probably not a bad idea, both for the sake of transparency and because the simple act of distilling a "what went wrong" report can probably help SQEX improve process to ensure stuff like this is less likely in the future. And that seems to be where most players are.

But there's a non-zero amount of players -- sometimes very loud players -- who are still leveling demands that don't really seem... reasonable. Or rational. And if I were to take any one thing of value away from this roller-coaster of a thread that's part rational discourse and part "the OP seems to have dressed in a clown suit, started screaming like a metal band's lead singer, then self-immolated", it's probably that the folks who are being reasonable (but still angry) might want to go "whoa there, calm down" when they encounter the folks who aren't being reasonable. Because if you have a small-but-loud lunatic fringe, they can sometimes start to drown out the more rational responses -- or just be loud-and-present enough that the rational responses sort of become just more noise -- and that is not a great thing if you want developers to actually pay attention to what the playerbase is saying.