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    The housing system is designed to upset as many people as possible.

    We have a system that is based around intentionally upsetting the largest amount of people possible. In many MMORPGs the housing is instanced. Elder Scrolls Online has heavily instanced housing, a large player base, and no issues with it. Warframe has massive instanced housing with a very robust decorating system. I could go on and on.

    It's baffling, frustrating, and upsetting that we have a housing system like this in one of the, if not the, most popular MMORPG on the market. There is NO legitimate reason why the housing shouldn't be instanced. There are many titles with large amounts of players running instanced housing. They have no issue supporting it with their servers. So the data space argument is out the window. It doesn't "keep people in towns" or provide any sense of a living and populated world. Most people can attest that the housing wards are bone dry and empty unless an event is happening - which is usually to help a streamer.

    This needs to be fixed, it's a crucial game element, it's ADVERTISED on the main game page: https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/

    A secondary network of servers could host the housing service in a similar way data center transfers and world transfers operate. They can easily give us more housing, easily make people happier, but instead we have this.

    Those that have lost the lottery have to take a walk of shame from the placard with reports of them being ridiculed or awkwardly stared at as the victor of the lottery has a party on their new lawn.

    Things like this shouldn't be in a game. The moogle should have sent you your gil. I can't believe these types of things weren't thought out. But we have "zero" as a winning number. I'm not really sure what to make of this.

    All this system has done: Create a grey market where houses are sold at extremely high prices, upset more people than it has made happy, ruin the game for many, and cause the greatest issue with Final Fantasy XIV: Online since 1.0
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    Those that have lost the lottery have to take a walk of shame from the placard with reports of them being ridiculed or awkwardly stared at as the victor of the lottery has a party on their new lawn.
    I in particulary have to agree with this, I'm not sure what was the idea behind forcing people to go to the plot they just lost, as the winner is there building his house and decorating, and you have to take a walk of shame to come pick up your gil right in front of it, it encourages toxicity and is just ridiculous to have to deal with after the frustration of losing a house.

    As for the rest, I agree as well.
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    So many other games have done an amazingly outstanding job at housing system in comparison to XIV. The currently most played MMORPG. It feels like it's purposely done this way.
    And I don't have big hopes for it ever being fixed.
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    take your tin foil hat off not everything is a conspiracy
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    Lol, if they really wanted to design something to make you frustrated, this wouldn't be it. Less conspiracies please
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    Quote Originally Posted by deadman1204 View Post
    Lol, if they really wanted to design something to make you frustrated, this wouldn't be it. Less conspiracies please
    I'm not arguing that it's a conspiracy. It's just that the system they have created inadvertently upsets a large amount of people. This should have been something they were aware of - given the way it operates. I think you misunderstood where I was coming from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anger View Post
    We have a system that is based around intentionally upsetting the largest amount of people possible. In many MMORPGs the housing is instanced. Elder Scrolls Online has heavily instanced housing, a large player base, and no issues with it. Warframe has massive instanced housing with a very robust decorating system. I could go on and on.

    It's baffling, frustrating, and upsetting that we have a housing system like this in one of the, if not the, most popular MMORPG on the market. There is NO legitimate reason why the housing shouldn't be instanced. There are many titles with large amounts of players running instanced housing. They have no issue supporting it with their servers. So the data space argument is out the window. It doesn't "keep people in towns" or provide any sense of a living and populated world. Most people can attest that the housing wards are bone dry and empty unless an event is happening - which is usually to help a streamer.

    This needs to be fixed, it's a crucial game element, it's ADVERTISED on the main game page: https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/

    A secondary network of servers could host the housing service in a similar way data center transfers and world transfers operate. They can easily give us more housing, easily make people happier, but instead we have this.

    Those that have lost the lottery have to take a walk of shame from the placard with reports of them being ridiculed or awkwardly stared at as the victor of the lottery has a party on their new lawn.

    Things like this shouldn't be in a game. The moogle should have sent you your gil. I can't believe these types of things weren't thought out. But we have "zero" as a winning number. I'm not really sure what to make of this.

    All this system has done: Create a grey market where houses are sold at extremely high prices, upset more people than it has made happy, ruin the game for many, and cause the greatest issue with Final Fantasy XIV: Online since 1.0

    You forgot to mention the real reason why these wards are bone dry empty. FC alts have bought them up in one case on one server one man bought an entire ward in the goblet. In another server an FC bought any entire ward and it’s empty because the one person FC uses it to roll play by building an entire time for example there is a bank or general store lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by HisShadowX View Post
    You forgot to mention the real reason why these wards are bone dry empty. FC alts have bought them up in one case on one server one man bought an entire ward in the goblet. In another server an FC bought any entire ward and it’s empty because the one person FC uses it to roll play by building an entire time for example there is a bank or general store lol
    Yes, that is really unfortunate. The system should not allow that. Good point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anger View Post
    We have a system that is based around intentionally upsetting the largest amount of people possible. In many MMORPGs the housing is instanced. Elder Scrolls Online has heavily instanced housing, a large player base, and no issues with it. Warframe has massive instanced housing with a very robust decorating system. I could go on and on.

    It's baffling, frustrating, and upsetting that we have a housing system like this in one of the, if not the, most popular MMORPG on the market. There is NO legitimate reason why the housing shouldn't be instanced. There are many titles with large amounts of players running instanced housing. They have no issue supporting it with their servers. So the data space argument is out the window. It doesn't "keep people in towns" or provide any sense of a living and populated world. Most people can attest that the housing wards are bone dry and empty unless an event is happening - which is usually to help a streamer.

    This needs to be fixed, it's a crucial game element, it's ADVERTISED on the main game page: https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/

    A secondary network of servers could host the housing service in a similar way data center transfers and world transfers operate. They can easily give us more housing, easily make people happier, but instead we have this.

    Those that have lost the lottery have to take a walk of shame from the placard with reports of them being ridiculed or awkwardly stared at as the victor of the lottery has a party on their new lawn.

    Things like this shouldn't be in a game. The moogle should have sent you your gil. I can't believe these types of things weren't thought out. But we have "zero" as a winning number. I'm not really sure what to make of this.

    All this system has done: Create a grey market where houses are sold at extremely high prices, upset more people than it has made happy, ruin the game for many, and cause the greatest issue with Final Fantasy XIV: Online since 1.0
    Housing is a disaster in this game. Don't let anyone gaslight you!
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    the housing woulda been fine if it met the people's need :c
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