A Toxic Culture in XIV

[Caurcas]

Greetings, the events of this day and the responses around the housing issue and other hot button points I feel have elicited a discussion over the title topic. I believe XIV has fostered a culture of toxic (for lack of a better word) positivity. What is toxic positivity? Its when all critique and dissenting opinions get drowned out in favor of a non-critical view and a glossing over of faults and issues. We've seen this today in blind defense of housing bugs that never should have happened. We've seen it in the past with character customization, limited races and hair styles, and bizarre job changes. I saw it personally today when in my server's (Siren) novice network some folks were discussing cutscenes in EW. I voiced the opinion that I thought there were too many and too long. This led to personal attacks. A short while later some other mentors and sprouts were discussing topics against ToS and I voiced that perhaps those topics were not appropriate for the channel, and this was met with more personal attacks with crude language. I sought to not violate ToS of my own accord, but the vitriol they were typing was quite against it. This led to a kick, and while I could report the language I do not want to be petty. I, however, have no other idea how we might combat this outside of reporting when these players have been so emboldened by this toxic positivity culture that has taken hold in XIV.

[Lily_Skye]

great community btw

[Slayer25c]

Greetings, the events of this day and the responses around the housing issue and other hot button points I feel have elicited a discussion over the title topic. I believe XIV has fostered a culture of toxic (for lack of a better word) positivity. What is toxic positivity? Its when all critique and dissenting opinions get drowned out in favor of a non-critical view and a glossing over of faults and issues. We've seen this today in blind defense of housing bugs that never should have happened. We've seen it in the past with character customization, limited races and hair styles, and bizarre job changes. I saw it personally today when in my server's (Siren) novice network some folks were discussing cutscenes in EW. I voiced the opinion that I thought there were too many and too long. This led to personal attacks. A short while later some other mentors and sprouts were discussing topics against ToS and I voiced that perhaps those topics were not appropriate for the channel, and this was met with more personal attacks with crude language. I sought to not violate ToS of my own accord, but the vitriol they were typing was quite against it. This led to a kick, and while I could report the language I do not want to be petty. I, however, have no other idea how we might combat this outside of reporting when these players have been so emboldened by this toxic positivity culture that has taken hold in XIV.

Toxicity has always been in 14 you just find it forum's more often these days

[HisShadowX]

This is why the Japanese want to keep westerners out their games because of snowflakes. How about you leave that network and find an FC of like minded people? However whether it was the French Revolution and the cult of reason and todays cult of the woke eventually you all will eat each other and attack each other. There always must be a victim there always must be an evil person

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

This is why the Japanese want to keep westerners out their games because of snowflakes. How about you leave that network and find an FC of like minded people? However whether it was the French Revolution and the cult of reason and todays cult of the woke eventually you all will eat each other and attack each other. There always muddy be a victim there always must be an evil person

What even are you going on about now

do you just word vomit without sparing thought to anything you type, or is this just a physical representation of whatever weird ant farm you got going on in your mind?

[Ranaku]

Only cause the 0,00000001% players of the community you have contact with or which are here on the forums etc. have some toxic tendencies doesn't mean the community is toxic. That is like saying all people of country XYZ are racists or homophobes or whatever. Even if you have thousands of players spewing their toxic takes on something out somewhere that isn't even a fraction of the entire mostly silent community who just enjoys the game.

But that is some nice pigeonholing there i have to say!

[Kaurhz]

Negativity bias.

[TheMightyMollusk]

And people wonder why the devs don't look in on the English forums.

[Jeeqbit]

They shouldn't attack you over such opinions as "there are too many cutscenes" or try to prevent your opinion from existing, but in reverse there is a such thing as toxic negativity, where people drown out all positivity and where they can only ever be negative about everything, never providing any praise for aspects that are done well or understanding of why a feature or change can't be made.

[Momo_Kozuki]

Toxicity has always been in 14 you just find it forum's more often these days

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