[Feedback] Add Epic Easy Anti-Cheat to FFXIV before is too late

[drtasteyummy]

It's a story as old as gaming itself, shaped by the stupid and ignorant, clamoring for something they don't understand. EAC is one of the best anti cheat and yet absolutely useless. those who really want to cheat, do so with an anti cheat. You would think people would learn this after so many countless games. The question you should really ask yourself is why is this even possible. Why is speedhack possible? bad coding, why is an anti cc possible? bad coding, automation of skills? pure server side loganalyze is enough. This game game doesn't need an anti cheat, it needs skilled developers.

[Absimiliard]

EAC is one of the best anti cheat.

Hello there. As someone whose occupation affords a fair degree of knowledge about such things, I'd like to note that I strongly believe EAC to in fact be hot garbage. About the only thing I can give it credit for is its name being very fitting, because it is indeed incredibly easy to bypass.

Need an example? Take a look at Elden Ring. EAC had actually been bypassed before the game was even released.

[drtasteyummy]

Hello there. As someone whose occupation affords a fair degree of knowledge about such things, I'd like to note that I strongly believe EAC to in fact be hot garbage. About the only thing I can give it credit for is its name being very fitting, because it is indeed incredibly easy to bypass.

Need an example? Take a look at Elden Ring. EAC had actually been bypassed before the game was even released.

Which is only because it's poorly "implemented" - if you can even call it that - since Fromsoftware doesn't know how to do that properly. At least they had the decency to implement a hearthbeat check, which is not called before you join like a big brain would do. A lot of people shit on that anti cheat, ignoring that the reason it's bypassed so often like battleeye it's is high usage and therefore really knowledge people reversing it. Public bypass paste kiddies aside, the game would still suffer from cheaters since where is demand there is also providers see Wow classic EWT. Hence, I said fix the bad server coding you'll never win the war against cheat providers.

[Canadane]

Instead of needing anti-cheat detection just start being more heavy handed with permanent bans for those using mods of any sort when caught.
Yes this means UI mods, QOL mods, and literally anything that gives an advantage over a playstation user. That at the very least should be the baseline of non-tolerance.

[StriderShinryu]

Instead of needing anti-cheat detection just start being more heavy handed with permanent bans for those using mods of any sort when caught.
Yes this means UI mods, QOL mods, and literally anything that gives an advantage over a playstation user. That at the very least should be the baseline of non-tolerance.

I agree with this. Adding additional layers of software security is just going to end up being a pain in the butt for everyone who doesn't cheat. The people who will cheat will just find a way around it while everyone else deals with the bloat. What is actually needed is quickly dispensed, harsh punishment for those who do cheat, as well as some easy way for players to report those who are clearly cheating (though every report should, of course, be vetted). You're never going to completely get rid of cheating entirely but you can make it a very unappealing prospect to do and then get caught doing.

[KariTheFox]

Instead of needing anti-cheat detection just start being more heavy handed with permanent bans for those using mods of any sort when caught.
Yes this means UI mods, QOL mods, and literally anything that gives an advantage over a playstation user. That at the very least should be the baseline of non-tolerance.

Putting aside whether or not people should be banned for UI and QoL mods, how is SE supposed to detect people using those kinds of mods without running intrusive anticheat programs that check for third party programs and modifications to the games dlls?

[Rufalus]

I think that particular anti cheat supports Linux anyway, but the new version of ffxiv launcher doesn't. Linux might actually start gaining some ground in gaming now that most of the popular games play well in proton. I know I'm not buying a Windows license any more for any future PCs.

[Y2K21]

Please do also keep in mind: a working anti-cheat would also prevent manipulation of game files -- which means Textools and mods associated with that would be killed (which could piss off a relatively more casual, but consistently online playerbase).

[lollamoon]

Its still not too late to add Epic Easy Anti-Cheat to FFXIV.

Please, no. The loading can't be ruined to please 5% of players.

[CrayonsAndPaint]

There are at least 2 pvp addons that tracks cds and player profiles, if you are on Twitch, you can see clips of high elo Crystal players encountering a certain top 10 player using speed hacks now too. It shouldn't be hard to find.

Also there is a certain addon website that makes the better version of 1-2-3 combo addon do a pvp version that will ping you if samurai uses their ability and highlights players that ninjas can 100% execute, and a few other addons in development that shows the aoe radius of certain players.

Its still not too late to add Epic Easy Anti-Cheat to FFXIV, most recent games already use it like Lost Ark and Elden Ring and it gets the job done.

Uh, you do realize Anti-Cheats can be bypassed right? All it takes is one or two people who know PowerPC to open files up in IDA Pro. What you’re suggesting is pointless and actually hurts players rather than help them.