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    Quote Originally Posted by Masenko View Post
    Well it is.
    We're being charged money monthly and don't have access to a basic game function that is gated. There's an argument to be made here (likely poorly) that this is fraud of some sort.

    And yeah, I'm bitter.
    If you're currently on a Standard sub and are able to downgrade to Entry, why not do that? You'll essentially be choosing to pay less (vote with you wallet) to compensate for the housing content you're not getting with a Standard sub.
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    Last edited by Illmaeran; 04-19-2022 at 05:05 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Illmaeran View Post
    If you're currently on a Standard sub and are able to downgrade to Entry, why not do that? You'll essentially be choosing to pay less (vote with you wallet) to compensate for the housing content you're not getting with a Standard sub.
    I personally cancelled my sub for the time being. If my gameplay consists solely of running alliance raids or normal raids (depending on the patch cycle) and the one thing I want besides that is my own space large enough to decorate how I want is gated behind a luck based system, then why should I give them my money on a monthly basis? especially if they incentivize keeping a persistent sub to prevent you from losing said house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sythex View Post
    I personally cancelled my sub for the time being. If my gameplay consists solely of running alliance raids or normal raids (depending on the patch cycle) and the one thing I want besides that is my own space large enough to decorate how I want is gated behind a luck based system, then why should I give them my money on a monthly basis? especially if they incentivize keeping a persistent sub to prevent you from losing said house.
    Why have you been continuing to give them money until now if you feel the game isn't worth it without a house?

    Certainly you should make the best choice for yourself as a consumer. If you will get more entertainment value spending your $15/mo elsewhere, then do it. Part of the problem in the game industry is they're used to players throwing money at games without actually looking into the game play to see if the game is any good and they'll like it. As long as people keep throwing money around like that, game developers have no reason to change.

    Personally I'm satisfied with what I get for my money here. Even if I didn't have a house, there's still a lot of other content in the game I enjoy (crafting, hunts, etc.). I'd still be getting my money's worth and so I continue to play. On the other hand if content underwent major changes and I stopped enjoying the rest of the game, not even housing would keep me subscribed. RIFT Dimensions are a lot of fun as housing but the rest of the game is meh is best so I quit playing it.

    And to correct the common perception that you need a persistent sub to keep a house in this game, you do not. Sub for a month, unsub for 6 weeks. Repeat. As long as you remember to enter your house at the start and end of your subscription period so the demo timer resets, you're not going to lose it. That's only 40% of the year you need to be subscribed, and lucky time with their free log in campaigns can reduce it even more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Even if I didn't have a house
    It's funny how people who are the privileged few try to diminish the issue.
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    It is an issue, yes. But if your only reason for playing is just to have a house to show off, well, sounds like you're playing for the wrong reasons.

    You've got the MSQ, relic weapons, the adventure foray areas, the EX trials, Unreal Trials, Ultimates, just many things to do and see in this game, that aren't related to housing at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valfreyja View Post
    You've got the MSQ, relic weapons, the adventure foray areas, the EX trials, Unreal Trials, Ultimates, just many things to do and see in this game, that aren't related to housing at all.
    1: I've already done all the MSQs that are available up to this point, I could new game + sure, but the mood has to strike.
    2: I have all the current relic weapons I want until the EW relics are released, and adventuring forays (to my understanding) are for relics.
    3: I can barely get through EX fights with my sanity intact, and savage PF content has left a bad taste in my mouth with ShB and the elitism I've faced, do you really think I can mentally handle unreals or ultimates? even if I joined a static I'd still probably suffer a lot of stress from the PTSD alone.

    unless you have other suggestions?
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    Last edited by Sythex; 04-19-2022 at 10:49 AM. Reason: additions to comment

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    Voting with your wallet is meaningless.

    Unless you've got about 20,000 to 30,000 players doing it, if not more.

    A handful of players doing it, won't even be noticed, at this point.
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