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    Quote Originally Posted by Seera1024 View Post
    The problem with that is if an FC bid on a house in order to relocate their FC house and transferred and they roll back, do they get their original house back? What if they then lose the re-bid if they aren't able to get the original house back?
    While I'm not saying I agree with the OP's idea, but the question you have isn't so much of a problem. If an FC relocated, the other house can't go up for sale since lottery is frozen. This would allow SE to revert some of this stuff if they wanted to.

    However, I think the bigger deal is the gil spent on buying construction permits, exterior walls, etc etc etc. If they were going to talk about reverting this, they should have said it at 11:10am EST today. Not, 6 hours later or 1 day later. It would be hard to make everyone whole without possibly messing something else up in the meantime.

    I think the most likely scenario that is going to happen is:
    - anyone that won a plot keeps their plot
    - all other plots are back up in the next lottery draw

    Why not reroll for just those that lost to the "0 winner?" Lots of people took their gil out in the form of the refund. I think it won't be easy for SE to track all of these transactions (who took out gil, who didn't take the refund, etc etc). In my opinion, that ship has already sailed. The "0 winner" plots, even with just 1 bid will go up in the next lottery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dspguy View Post
    While I'm not saying I agree with the OP's idea, but the question you have isn't so much of a problem. If an FC relocated, the other house can't go up for sale since lottery is frozen. This would allow SE to revert some of this stuff if they wanted to.

    However, I think the bigger deal is the gil spent on buying construction permits, exterior walls, etc etc etc. If they were going to talk about reverting this, they should have said it at 11:10am EST today. Not, 6 hours later or 1 day later. It would be hard to make everyone whole without possibly messing something else up in the meantime.

    I think the most likely scenario that is going to happen is:
    - anyone that won a plot keeps their plot
    - all other plots are back up in the next lottery draw

    Why not reroll for just those that lost to the "0 winner?" Lots of people took their gil out in the form of the refund. I think it won't be easy for SE to track all of these transactions (who took out gil, who didn't take the refund, etc etc). In my opinion, that ship has already sailed. The "0 winner" plots, even with just 1 bid will go up in the next lottery.
    But it has to know which lot belonged to which FC. Not sure the game tracks that piece of information and that would be what is needed to undo things without costing FC's houses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dspguy View Post
    While I'm not saying I agree with the OP's idea, but the question you have isn't so much of a problem. If an FC relocated, the other house can't go up for sale since lottery is frozen. This would allow SE to revert some of this stuff if they wanted to.

    However, I think the bigger deal is the gil spent on buying construction permits, exterior walls, etc etc etc. If they were going to talk about reverting this, they should have said it at 11:10am EST today. Not, 6 hours later or 1 day later. It would be hard to make everyone whole without possibly messing something else up in the meantime.
    While I see what you stated being a huge problem for SE and players affected, if they are able to rollback, which they should be able to, the gil spent should go back...right? You do bring up some good points, but as I originally stated, the rollback makes it fair for everyone involved. You also stated that they should have said something about them acting on this earlier if they were going to revert it...you are indeed correct that the longer they wait, the worse this is going to get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dspguy View Post
    While I'm not saying I agree with the OP's idea, but the question you have isn't so much of a problem. If an FC relocated, the other house can't go up for sale since lottery is frozen. This would allow SE to revert some of this stuff if they wanted to.

    However, I think the bigger deal is the gil spent on buying construction permits, exterior walls, etc etc etc. If they were going to talk about reverting this, they should have said it at 11:10am EST today. Not, 6 hours later or 1 day later. It would be hard to make everyone whole without possibly messing something else up in the meantime.

    I think the most likely scenario that is going to happen is:
    - anyone that won a plot keeps their plot
    - all other plots are back up in the next lottery draw

    Why not reroll for just those that lost to the "0 winner?" Lots of people took their gil out in the form of the refund. I think it won't be easy for SE to track all of these transactions (who took out gil, who didn't take the refund, etc etc). In my opinion, that ship has already sailed. The "0 winner" plots, even with just 1 bid will go up in the next lottery.
    I think those who left their money in [like I did] should be given their plots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redheadturk View Post
    I think those who left their money in [like I did] should be given their plots.
    According to the update, you will.
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