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    Quote Originally Posted by S0lara View Post
    The thing is, and I gave this example to someone that was trolling my post earlier, is that let's say you go to a giveaway at some store, and you find out that you were the only person who entered the giveaway. When they draw the winner of the giveaway, your name is in there, as well as a ticket for (0) zero, as in you going up against no one. The people holding the giveaway tell you that they are sorry that they accidentally put a ticket with a zero as a placeholder no one showing up, and that unfortunately, you lose. You report this insight, and the company honors the fact that you were the only person that entered the giveaway, and they reroll or choose the winner again, now out of a hat that only has your name on it.
    That doesn't at all address the issue of what to do with the FC's and personal houses that were relocated. What do you with those who WON their bid - as in the system didn't give their lottery result a 0 - but relocated their house?

    I doubt the system is set up for a reversal of a housing system without a complete rollback of the ENTIRE server. And that would anger way more people than those affected by the bug. Anyone who progressed ANYTHING but had not put in a bid for a house would be affected.
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    Aergrael Iyrnrael
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seera1024 View Post
    That doesn't at all address the issue of what to do with the FC's and personal houses that were relocated. What do you with those who WON their bid - as in the system didn't give their lottery result a 0 - but relocated their house?
    The old houses were still excluded from the lottery, so you can just move them back to the old house. Only the next lottery cycle the plot would be free to bid on. Their action of extending the current result timer is on that the best thing they can do while investigating the issue.

    The real issue is that some players who got a house, might have bought furnishing from the market, if that would revert, and the next roll they dont get a house. Those things could become a problem, because you cant just revert a sale without issues. But this is only a problem when the generator doesnt give proper random numbers and favors some above others. I suspect they used a standard pseudo generator that is random enough to not be an issue (even if it was considered secure 20y ago, thats already random enough for these lotteries, because there is no spamming aspect that normaly breaks those algoritms).

    Unless someone knew which generator they used, and that generator having some sort of timing issue that favors certain value, i do not see any reason to revert any winner (even though i would like to get another chance)
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