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Thread: RNG Fairness

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    S0lara's Avatar
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    RNG Fairness

    I originally replied with this in a lot of other posts, but I think it needs to seriously be looked at, so that everyone is on equal footing.

    A lot of people made great points in the plethora of post about today's current housing RNG debacle, but regardless of what they did, the RNG code is created by a person, and they inputted 0 as one of the possible choices for output. I have coded in Python and Mathematica before, and if you import random, and then you list the parameters, e.g. list=1,2,3,4,5... It is pretty easy to see, that when they listed their parameters for the housing lottery system, they included 0 (zero) in the list of possible choices that could be rolled. If they did in fact did put zero into their list, as in: listhousing or list1 (whatever you want to call it) = 0,1,2,3,4,5..., when as stated earlier, it should have been list1=1,2,3,4,5...

    If what I stated is correct, then in all fairness, they should roll back EVERYONE's bids, because if 0 (zero) was counted as a possible RNG choice, then EVERY roll is invalidated and needs to be done again. I know it sucks for some people, but in all fairness, if zero (0) was included, then redoing it is the most fair solution.
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    No. As unfortunate as it is, those that had 0 as the winner will just need to re-enter the lottery next time around. You think people are upset because of 0 being drawn as the winner? Imagine how many would be upset if they had their free company/private houses taken from them, not to mention all the GIL people already dumped into decorating their houses. Again, it is an unfortunate thing that will be corrected, but punishing everyone is not the answer regardless of what you feel is RNG fairness.
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    As a player who got hit with the 0 bug
    https://youtu.be/PB4Nby2Ai-g
    It should be us that got hit with the bug that should do the re-roll. Those who refunded should get another chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunnycake View Post
    As a player who got hit with the 0 bug
    https://youtu.be/PB4Nby2Ai-g
    It should be us that got hit with the bug that should do the re-roll. Those who refunded should get another chance.
    Also a player who got the bug, I haven't refunded either in the hopes we just get a re-roll.
    I don't think that anyone who did win should be losing their houses or any of the gil/time they must've already poured into their new plots. I'd be more pissed off if I'd won the lottery, got the house and went to the trouble of setting up and decorating it only to have it taken away from me because someone at SE didn't check to see if '0' could be a possibility from the lottery. As it stands, I haven't actually lost anything and all the gil I put in as a deposit can be recouped until July so I can't be *too* salty about it overall. Though, I'll admit I was legitimately furious when I got hit with the bug.
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