No longer want to play if I can't get a house

[Kaurhz]

I'll see you in 6.2 then, and again in 6.3, and once again in 6.4 and 6.5.

[Claviusnex]

They have said countless times due to server restrictions they can't just make infinite instanced housing. Calling them liars isn't going to help. Island Sanctuary won't be nearly as detailed as actual housing, nor should it because then why have housing wards?

I highly doubt it is technical issues. In fact I suspect a fully instanced housing system would require less system resources than the current devoid of players ward system assuming the instanced system is well designed. Housing has been something SEQ has hinted at for a long time that they really don't believe should be in the game. It has been pretty much a failure from the beginning due to SEQ not having a good understanding of what the user base is looking for and underestimating its popularity. To change course now would mean FF XIV leadership would have to admit the current system is not a success and that they wasted a lot of effort trying to put lipstick on a pig. So the real issues is not technical so much as the ward based housing system has become a matter of saving face. There is a compromise which could be considered a win-win and that would be keeping and freezing the ward system with all of its restrictions and a parallel instanced housing system for the larger player base.

[GomezAddams]

the housing could be better that is true, but to unsub over it is just ridiculous, you said it yourself it's a side game. you're going to ignore all the other stuff the game has added just because one aspect isn't working properly. I did not what they did with teh alliance raids in shadowbringers, I didn't quit the game over it. I'm sure something will be worked out, you just need to be patient.

I don't find unsubbing ridiculous when a company refuses to deliver an advertised feature to everyone who wants to participate in the feature. We all pay for the same thing, we should all have the same availability where EVERY feature is concerned. Some of us have been waiting for YEARS at this point to move into a larger home, and others have now been waiting for over 2 years just to get into the smallest size. The new lottery system is unfair in every way, it's bugged, and most of all it is just another cover-up for their unwillingness to devote the time and resources to getting enough server space to house every player. Yes, that is EXACTLY their job, and all we've gotten so far are excuses and distraction from the facts. They don't want to pay for the equipment they need to give us what they advertise. It is that simple, and the only thing they're going to hear at this point is the sound of subs dropping.

[Mr_Gyactus]

Probably because people begged and cried that they wanted to be able to own personal homes.

money sink.
"We" players from 1.0 had a lot of gils, even after a 90% cut of our wallet (1.0 1m -> ARR 100k). The FCs had already bought a house, a lot of plots were empty and SE did 1+1.
The lack of housing exploded with HW, when many "new" players began to have a lot of money and no way to spend it.

[MellowMink]

You were willing to play the game since October 2011 (according to the forums) and only now are deciding to unsubscribe solely because of issues with the newer lottery service?

[Listrella]

I don't find unsubbing ridiculous when a company refuses to deliver an advertised feature to everyone who wants to participate in the feature. We all pay for the same thing, we should all have the same availability where EVERY feature is concerned. Some of us have been waiting for YEARS at this point to move into a larger home, and others have now been waiting for over 2 years just to get into the smallest size. The new lottery system is unfair in every way, it's bugged, and most of all it is just another cover-up for their unwillingness to devote the time and resources to getting enough server space to house every player. Yes, that is EXACTLY their job, and all we've gotten so far are excuses and distraction from the facts. They don't want to pay for the equipment they need to give us what they advertise. It is that simple, and the only thing they're going to hear at this point is the sound of subs dropping.

you overestimate your effect, people unsubbing because of housing does not make up the majority of the playerbase. You said it yourself this is not an easy fix for them, they do not have unilimited resources, if they devoted what was needed to provide what your askign then the rest of the game woudl suffer for it, and then we'd get people complaining about that, so jsut accept that the housing system is never going to be ideal. the ff14 devs have other concerns than the housing system, devoting everything to it would ruin the game!

[Vahlnir]

if your sole reason is to play is to get a house then fine leave. this isn't a house dress up game, somebody get so worked up just because they can't have everything they want. I personally stopped trying to get a house ages ago and instead enjoyed all the other content this game has to offer.

If some things don't change, and not just housing, soon...some will indeed leave. Maybe not a lot to matter much, but they will. But as time goes on, those numbers will increase as the game continues to stagnate on multiple fronts. As you sit there in your emptying Limsa plaza, waiting a long time for what used to be relatively quick queues for the most trivials of things, seeing the chat silent as the grave...you will wish those people had stayed and that SE had listened. This isn't just about housing. Housing is a symptom of a much larger issue that you and others are blind to.

[Skivvy]

You were willing to play the game since October 2011 (according to the forums) and only now are deciding to unsubscribe solely because of issues with the newer lottery service?

There is such a thing as the straw the breaks the camel's back. This game has a lot of shortcomings, and I can understand this latest fiasco pushing people off the edge finally.

[Listrella]

If some things don't change, and not just housing, soon...some will indeed leave. Maybe not a lot to matter much, but they will. But as time goes on, those numbers will increase as the game continues to stagnate on multiple fronts. As you sit there in your emptying Limsa plaza, waiting a long time for what used to be relatively quick queues for the most trivials of things, seeing the chat silent as the grave...you will wish those people had stayed and that SE had listened. This isn't just about housing. Housing is a symptom of a much larger issue that you and others are blind to.

I fail to see the issues, the alliance raid this patch has been called by some the best alliance raid they've ever done (though I personally disagree) a lot of people are loving the pvp, the story is a good as ever. I fail to see what problems your referring to. I have been playing for years and i'm not even slightly tempted to leave.

[Manofpassion]

you overestimate your effect, people unsubbing because of housing does not make up the majority of the playerbase. You said it yourself this is not an easy fix for them, they do not have unilimited resources, if they devoted what was needed to provide what your askign then the rest of the game woudl suffer for it, and then we'd get people complaining about that, so jsut accept that the housing system is never going to be ideal. the ff14 devs have other concerns than the housing system, devoting everything to it would ruin the game!

I mean, fair. The devs can't devote all their time into housing, that's a given. But that just begs the question, what are they actually devoting their time to? Not hrothgar hair. Not Vieira hats. Not rampantly requested Spanish localisation. Not sensible job changes that don't feel like they come out of left field. Not the newest extreme, which I and many people feel is underwhelming due to it being the final boss. Not on fixing mch and nin's ping issues. Not on making tanks and Healers less mindnumbing.

They have obviously spent time on the alliance raids and the new plates. I really like those two things, I think they're great. But it seems they have devoted everything into those two things. This is kind of ruining the patch, is it not? I realise it is of course very easy for someone like me to just point out the flaws in the system, and it is obviously a lot more complex. But me and other players are gonna start thinking, “where is our money going” if they can't even figure out how to do simple random number generation for a lottery.

While I wouldn't say this has ruined the patch for me, since it's not fully out yet, I can say this patch has made a horrible first impression on me. This is the patch that is supposed to start the next era of ffxiv. And this is what we get? with the devs asking for 4 months between patches instead of the usual amount of time, it doesn't seem like the extra time they got is being put to good use. Or even any use.