No longer want to play if I can't get a house

[Batbrat]

I'm seeing a lot of dedicated xiv fan cope replies in this.

If you're unhappy with the way things are then yes, unsubbing is the answer. It's both for your own sake and because voting with your wallet will always hold power. but at the same time, to those kinda kicking them on the way out...you're only enjoying their misery right now because the population is still big enough for you to not notice them leaving yet. It won't always be like that. One day you'll see the results of people talking about problems, giving up, and leaving and you'll hate it. You'll long for the days when the game was more active. You'll think back to this time and sigh thinking how it all began around there and how you wish you could go back to before it all happened. Xiv players are paying customers. They're allowed to be upset and walk off over anything they'd like.

The whole argument of 'well housing has always been bad!'..you're not listening.
I already have a house so none of this even applies to me, but even I can see what these people are talking about, what they're trying to say.

The problem isnt actually 'I didnt get a house, I QUIT!!!!'
The problem is they were paying and playing for months under the assumption and expectation that this miraculous lottery system would at least be done well. But that's not what happened. They payed for months just to get a "0" bug. They payed for months just to only have a shot with 6 out of 24 wards. They thought it would be 24 wards. Not 6. That was sprang on them at the very last minute. Yoshi actually told us that SOME would be lottery and SOME would be normal, that'd he'd consider that. But he ultimately went with all lottery-so even that was wishywashy. They then even went BACK and put FC only restrictions on ALL the other districts too. So now for these people that lost...their pool has shrank so much its insane. Out of 24 wards in every district, they can only try in 6. This entire situation ultimately cost them more chances than it gave them. It shrunk their possibilities from meh to basically never happening.

So yes, its not crazy that its pushing some to quit. They're not being overdramatic. They're actually being realistic. If you want housing, if thats something you were seriously looking forward to? As of right now, your chances are bleak and you're probably better off just taking a break and seeing if someday they change their mind about it.

[Manofpassion]

I started this back in early 1.0 beta and pre-ordered the 1.0 collectors edition but didn't register on this forum till years later. So I'll give them benefit of the doubt on when they started playing. However claiming they "waited 4 years for this housing opportunity" is the part I'm inclined to call BS on since nothing was stated about Ishgard opening as a housing area or that they would use a housing lotto system 4 years ago. Pair that with people on this board's tendency to grossly exaggerate things when they feel inconvenienced by something or they don't get what they wanted.

Well, new housing wards was last released in stormblood no? And endwalker was released in 2021. I'm too lazy to do the math, but I presume the period between stormblood and endwalker was around 4 years, if not more. People have been waiting for new wards ever since Shirogane, which is quite a long period of time. Apologies if I wasn't expressing myself clearly enough, I didn't mean to insinuate players were waiting for ishgard housing in particular - merely just any new housing at all due to the short supply.

I also don't think people are exaggerating things. The lottery system just does not work. Its possible to lose to a number 0 ticket, no amount of spin and sugarcoating is gonna hide that frankly embarrassing error. But you are correct in saying that people in this thread complain about things when we don't get what we want. We didn't get a competent housing system or dev team kek

[Norwynn]

I started this back in early 1.0 beta and pre-ordered the 1.0 collectors edition but didn't register on this forum till years later. So I'll give them benefit of the doubt on when they started playing. However claiming they "waited 4 years for this housing opportunity" is the part I'm inclined to call BS on since nothing was stated about Ishgard opening as a housing area or that they would use a housing lotto system 4 years ago. Pair that with people on this board's tendency to grossly exaggerate things when they feel inconvenienced by something or they don't get what they wanted.

I don't think anywhere they said about waiting specifically for Ishgard for 4 years to get a house, but more of a general statement that they have waited for 4 years to finally attempt to get a house. At least from what I understood. Maybe your context and mine are different.

[Raim]

They are liars, and they can stop lying.
Do you really not understand how much money they make? Do you actually beleive it isnt financially viable? Youd have to be crazy
Expensive? Maybe, but relatively? Probably not
Impossible? LOL please

Other people can do it on a nearly equivalent scale, but Square Enix cant?

You can't just throw money at technical issues like its some sliding scale that can fix everything.

[Vahlnir]

This housing bug is a legitimately big issue, and unsubbing over it is fair, it's a pretty big blunder overall. I would wait to see how they respond first before reinstating a sub if you intend to. I am pretty miffed about it, but the devs have shown they are willing to fix and compensate (was it 5 weeks of game time for endwalker launch being queue-city?). At the end of the day, don't do what makes you angry or upset.

Honestly, they could say "instanced housing incoming next week guys" and I'd still let my sub lapse on principle. If I back down now, it would make me look weak. And I can't have that. No matter what they say I'm going to do it. How long that sub stays lapsed, however, is largely on them. I will be watching them like a hawk to see how they actually respond to their own screw ups. This patch has been one fumble after another.

[AmpelioB]

No point paying for a game you're doing nothing in.

Quit being a condescending jerk.

you don't have to make a thread just because you got tinely upset, if that's your silver lining just unsub and play something else. Quit being a big baby.

[GomezAddams]

Been waiting on a medium plot for over 3 years, so I can relate. I also had to leave for a few months due to school, and they took both my FC and personal small houses, neither of which I've been able to replace because the only people in my guild are me and my gf, and I'm not cheating with alts just to purchase a house. I, too, am about a hair's breadth away from unsubbing, and the only thing keeping me currently is that my gf plays now, too. And while housing is not the only thing I'm majorly displeased with, at this point it is the straw that broke the camel's back. It's ridiculous for an individual to be sitting on 8 figures and the thing you're supposed to do with it is in short supply, all because SE won't take those record profits they're making and expand their servers to a size that can give everyone housing who can afford it. It's their freaking job. If you supply housing to anyone, you have to supply enough for everyone. Otherwise you're just full of s*** and raping your customers of their cash. It's your right and duty as a consumer to stop giving your money to any company that stops delivering what they promise. We PAY for them make enough room for us all. This isn't charity, it's business, and I don't give my money to companies who can't deliver and don't meet my standards on the few deliveries they do decide to make. That's SE right now. They're comfortable with these record profits, they have no real competition, and they're testing us to see what they can get away with. Don't fail the test and keep paying for something you aren't receiving.

[Minifie]

Honestly, they could say "instanced housing incoming next week guys" and I'd still let my sub lapse on principle. If I back down now, it would make me look weak. And I can't have that. No matter what they say I'm going to do it. How long that sub stays lapsed, however, is largely on them. I will be watching them like a hawk to see how they actually respond to their own screw ups. This patch has been one fumble after another.

Absolutely fair. Nobody owes the dev team anything, and especially not Squenix as a company, making sure the devs get the feedback as to why you are unsubbing and frustrations is necessary. I hope housing gets a lot more love and not just "island sanctuary" as a half-baked concept, but we'll see. Hopefully some good, developed instance housing is on the horizon!

[Listrella]

if your sole reason is to play is to get a house then fine leave. this isn't a house dress up game, somebody get so worked up just because they can't have everything they want. I personally stopped trying to get a house ages ago and instead enjoyed all the other content this game has to offer.

[Minifie]

if your sole reason is to get a house then fine leave. this isn't a house dress up game, somebody get so worked up just because they can't have everything they want. I personally stopped trying to get a house ages ago and instead enjoyed all the other content this game has to offer.

That's unfair, housing is pretty damn fun side game, and being unable to participate and not knowing WHEN you'll be able to for a personal property is a big issue. I am thoroughly enjoying pvp and just doing some old collectable stuff atm while waiting for DSR, but at the same time I'd probably unsub if the housing debacle doesn't meet an amicable solution.