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    Quote Originally Posted by Somnolence View Post
    Wrong, if the lotto pick was not fair then some people that won weren't actually supposed to and another participant should have won instead. For example there are 3 participants and rnd was 0.49. In this case second participant should have won. But if there was fake extra participant 0 then the function could have awarded the win to first real participant instead given certain implementations etc. etc.
    Random is still random. Everyone in that particular lottery still had the same chance of winning it as everyone else in the lottery. As long as that condition is met, that's ultimately all that matters, and even if a different person might have won in different circumstances I don't see that as being sufficiently concerning to require revoking the lotteries that produced winners. It hasn't improved or damaged one person's chance relative to the others, just shifted the random number they require to win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Random is still random. Everyone in that particular lottery still had the same chance of winning it as everyone else in the lottery. As long as that condition is met, that's ultimately all that matters, and even if a different person might have won in different circumstances I don't see that as being sufficiently concerning to require revoking the lotteries that produced winners. It hasn't improved or damaged one person's chance relative to the others, just shifted the random number they require to win.
    Since it seems you dont understand, let me explain you the problem.

    The 0 bug happens to single bidders or same FC members bidding on the same plot only.

    If that condition is verified, the 0 (no entry participants) flag is raised.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mika_Zahard View Post
    Since it seems you dont understand, let me explain you the problem.

    The 0 bug happens to single bidders or same FC members bidding on the same plot only.

    If that condition is verified, the 0 (no entry participants) flag is raised.
    Am I to understand that it is your belief that this bug occurs ONLY to bidders who are the only bidder on a plot, or FC members who all bid on the same plot and are alone in their bid?

    Because if so, have I got news for you, buddy
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    Off-Topic Discussion Megathread: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/434886-Off-Topic-Discussion-Megathread
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post
    Am I to understand that it is your belief that this bug occurs ONLY to bidders who are the only bidder on a plot, or FC members who all bid on the same plot and are alone in their bid?

    Because if so, have I got news for you, buddy
    Tell me the news then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Random is still random. Everyone in that particular lottery still had the same chance of winning it as everyone else in the lottery. As long as that condition is met, that's ultimately all that matters, and even if a different person might have won in different circumstances I don't see that as being sufficiently concerning to require revoking the lotteries that produced winners. It hasn't improved or damaged one person's chance relative to the others, just shifted the random number they require to win.
    If the problem is that all the results were off by 1, then it's not just the people who lost to zero that have a right to be pissed. Because if they had coded it correctly then all the winners would have been different.

    And boy am I tired of "random is random" as an excuse for all the garbage RNG in this game. Sure, random can be random, but it can also be completely broken and unfair, and just because you can't see for sure if it is or not doesn't excuse it.
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