What is going on with Square Enix and the 14 team?

[LaylaTsarra]

Hrothgar hairs being a problem ain’t subjective. Cutting off the ears of a race due to hair? Yeah no that’s an objective failure “friend.” Viera and hrothgar not being able to wear certain helms isn’t subjective, it’s an objective flaw. Try another one though you guys are great and bending over backwards for the devs. I’m sure you would like me to unsub so i stop pointing out flaws in your beloved perfect game.

Maybe post something positive once in awhile and many of us might take you seriously. As it stands right now it's pretty easy to know what a Kizuya thread and post will be about. You might think you're fooling everyone but you're not.

[Theodric]

Okay, so you are just bitter and salty and don't have the self-control to just stop playing. Good to know, must be an absolute blast in social gatherings.

That's a strange conclusion to make when it's more likely than not that players who care enough about the game to not want it to crash and burn aren't in need of being weirdly defensive about literally every decision the development team happens to make.

As for enjoyable social gatherings, as someone who has interacted with him in-game and outside of it? You're quite right! He's genuinely one of the kindest players I've met in this game.

If the posts of certain contributors bother some of you so much, the ignore function exists for that reason. So long as people are abiding by the forum's code of conduct then there's no real justification to try and police the content and feedback of other players.

[Allegor]

How to know when someone is't being genuine and just being malicious - they use that stupid condescending tone

[KizuyaKatogami]

Maybe post something positive once in awhile and many of us might take you seriously. As it stands right now it's pretty easy to know what a Kizuya thread and post will be about. You might think you're fooling everyone but you're not.

I’ve complimented the game numerous times before, but when there’s a long list of negatives sorry, that isn’t going to be on my mind. Fooling? I’m not trying to fool anyone, i’m simply bringing awareness to the major issues with the company, and i’m concerned because myself and many others are paying customers. I’d like to know what’s going on with the company, especially when there seems to be problem after problem as of late. If you don’t like it you’re free to not enter the thread if you’re so sure you know what my threads are about. It seems many people come in looking for trouble and then whine and complain when the thread isn’t about praising the devs and worshipping their every move. I mean look at the person above you, playing forum psychiatrist attempting to act like they know me and know how i am irl.

[Minifie]

That's a strange conclusion to make when it's more likely than not that players who care enough about the game to not want it to crash and burn aren't in need of being weirdly defensive about literally every decision the development team happens to make.

As for enjoyable social gatherings, as someone who has interacted with him in-game and outside of it? You're quite right! He's genuinely one of the kindest players I've met in this game.

If the posts of certain contributors bother some of you so much, the ignore function exists for that reason. So long as people are abiding by the forum's code of conduct then there's no real justification to try and police the content and feedback of other players.

Constructive criticism helps with that, not having a whinge-train day and night. Let's look at the tags:

circlejerk cheese wine players causing drama more whining wow crowd crybabies bloodlust here we go again small indie company wow bad xiv good gcbtw devs incompetent

Yeah this thread goin' places!

Good to know your social circle is painfully small.

They don't bother me, you seem to be riling up though. I've already sent my feedback at my grievances to the FFXIV team, I wanted to throw in my suggestion that screaming "look at me I'm salty and mad and everyone pay attention to me" doesn't really solve anything. Very Karen-esque.

[kpxmanifesto]

I think some of the responses to this thread are good examples about what the other thread: "Toxic Culture in XIV" seeks to address. OP starts a thread to present valid criticism of the game and then people come to this thread to attack the OP. It's pretty easy to ignore a thread entirely and not comment on it, but no, something negative has to be said about the OP in an attempt to discredit him and render his criticism invalid.

[Ashgarth]

Between the healer problems for 6 years being ignored, the recent Hrothgar problems where they waited patiently for 3 years and got literal shit, to the horrid job design in 6.1, the pretty controversial story of EW, to now the housing system just imploding on itself. Do the devs just not care anymore? The game is seeing it’s peak, the game is bringing in more money than ever, and yet we’re somehow getting more broken systems. I guess this is what happens when they let the popularity get to their head? They start thinking they can half ass everything and people will continue to stay and kiss up to them. Seeing this community’s history i don’t blame them for thinking that way but…my god. The game is taking such a downward spiral. At this point i’m expecting Ultimate to have some major errors and that would be the icing on the cake.

How is the EW story controversial outside of this forum's echo chamber of people who wanted evil Hydaelyn?

[Minifie]

I think some of the responses to this thread are good examples about what the other thread: "Toxic Culture in XIV" seeks to address. OP starts a thread to present valid criticism of the game and then people come to this thread to attack the OP. It's pretty easy to ignore a thread entirely and not comment on it, but no, something negative has to be said about the OP in an attempt to discredit him and render his criticism invalid.

On the inverse the OP is a pretty toxic-filled whinge fest as well. Notice how the well-constructed feedback threads generally keep going and get improvements, while abrasive, temperamental threads just fill with the same in turn?

[Theodric]

Good to know your social circle is painfully small.

It's not and I think that's a rather weird conclusion to draw about someone you know nothing about...though it's clear that there's no reasoning with your ilk and you're clearly not here for an actual discussion so I'll bid you a good evening.

I wish you the best of luck working through whatever the OP's presence has induced within you.

How is the EW story controversial outside of this forum's echo chamber of people who wanted evil Hydaelyn?

I think that's a rather disingenuous take, especially since it's not hard to go and read through pre-Endwalker speculation threads to see that those who are 'against' Hydaelyn only ever wanted her to be presented as a morally grey figure and be called out for the atrocities she committed in the same way as how the Ascians were blamed for the atrocities that they committed.

Many of us don't just go 'OOH MOMMY' when we see a pretty female character get away with genocide, though. We just like logical consistency and the 'tHeMeS' of the story to be applied fairly across the board. I rather suspect that you're deliberately ignoring that the biggest criticism thread of the forum has a number of disillusioned Venat fans speaking out as well. Though in case you are acting in good faith, the thread in question was linked twice within this very thread...so maybe read the concerns raised before grabbing the wrong end of the stick?

[kpxmanifesto]

??

So you have something personal against the OP. If you don't like him and the feedback he provides for the game, why come here and comment at all? You're only doing him a favor by bumping his post to the top of the front page. If you don't like a thread then ignore it and it will eventually die.