What is going on with Square Enix and the 14 team?

[SturmChurro]

This. They tried to set out the expectations from the get-go and where limitations would be. Players had unreasonable expectations and now they're getting mad and insulting the devs for those unreasonable expectations. I'd get resentful and annoyed, too if someone completely ignored the warnings I gave them.

I don't know if I'd go so far as to call it unreasonable necessarily. I can understand it from their point of view, but there are many, reasonable, criticisms about the treatment of these races that can be made.

For example, they said these races would receive hair from the start, there are quotes out there, saying "of course" they would receive hair - custom hair at that. Now Yoshida is apparently saying he told us these races wouldn't receive any hair at all. Almost as if adding hairs after three years is him doing viera and hrothgar players a favor. The fantasia issue with hrothgar was left for years, and then stealth "fixed" recently.

Speaking on this, I feel like island sanctuary is going to bring out the same sentiment in the community, where SE has already said to temper expectations, but there are many members of the community who believe it'll be the fix for housing, or that it will be a new instanced housing system. I can already imagine the outrage if and when it doesn't deliver on many players expectations.

[Rokke]

Speaking on this, I feel like island sanctuary is going to bring out the same sentiment in the community, where SE has already said to temper expectations, but there are many members of the community who believe it'll be the fix for housing, or that it will be a new instanced housing system. I can already imagine the outrage if and when it doesn't deliver on many players expectations.

I'm eagerly looking forward to the implosion. Yoshi said to temper expectations....while still not giving any real info on what the heck the feature will be. Its going to be glorious.

[Skyborne]

I'm eagerly looking forward to the implosion. Yoshi said to temper expectations....while still not giving any real info on what the heck the feature will be. Its going to be glorious.

At this point I'm expecting the island (if it isn't just infinitely delayed from 'EW launch feature' to 'never') to be a pretty spot where you just watch minions run around. My expectations are rock bottom... I guess I can go lower, though. How about you go to the instance, it crashes, locks you out of your account, then steals your credit card info and installs crypto miners on your PC?

[Valfreyja]

Yea, I think a lot of people were hoping it would be some more great content for the game. They teased it like 4-5months before endwalker came out. And then yoshi was like "just kidding don't get too hyped"? While i believe expecting nothing and being surprised is always the right mindset to go into things, hearing a dev say that leaves weird feelings in my stomach.

Think that was why it was delayed as well. They were expanding and working on it to make it better, after seeing the player hype.

[TaleraRistain]

I don't know if I'd go so far as to call it unreasonable necessarily. I can understand it from their point of view, but there are many, reasonable, criticisms about the treatment of these races that can be made.

For example, they said these races would receive hair from the start, there are quotes out there, saying "of course" they would receive hair - custom hair at that. Now Yoshida is apparently saying he told us these races wouldn't receive any hair at all. Almost as if adding hairs after three years is him doing viera and hrothgar players a favor. The fantasia issue with hrothgar was left for years, and then stealth "fixed" recently.

Speaking on this, I feel like island sanctuary is going to bring out the same sentiment in the community, where SE has already said to temper expectations, but there are many members of the community who believe it'll be the fix for housing, or that it will be a new instanced housing system. I can already imagine the outrage if and when it doesn't deliver on many players expectations.

Fair point and they can be called out on the promise of custom hair. But they did try to indicate these races would not be treated like other races and players assumed incorrectly they would be treated like other races in all ways even when being told that wasn't the case.

I think you're right about Island Sanctuary, too. They're warning people to temper expectations but I've seen people outright try to claim the devs said it would have instanced housing. Absolutely nowhere has that been the case.