What is going on with Square Enix and the 14 team?

[FoxyAreku]

Nothing new, the game has been in a huge decline since Shadowbringer started. While the story got better, everything else suffered, and it's only been downhill since.

I want this game to be heavensword/stormblood level of good gameplay and class design again.

[SturmChurro]

Nobody knew that Hrothgar did not have a hairstyle change option in the aesthetician until ShB was released and by then it was already too late for people who switched to Hrothgar as soon as it went live. They never mentioned that Hrothgar would be that limited. Even now people are finding out that Hrothgar could not change hairstyles and its thanks to the recent outrage.

If I recall (sorry it's been three years), they didn't even have the mogstation store updated to say they couldn't use items, and I don't think the races were listed as limited in game either for awhile.

[IkaraGreydancer]

At this point I just wonder how many times the same folks are going to repeat the same "game is declining" stuff til they pack up and just play something else. To me the dev team would never be able to do enough to please alot of these folks

[Vahlnir]

Maybe I like FFXIV. Maybe I want to see it thrive. Maybe I don't want it to decline because I want to stay here.

This isn't exclusive to Ikara, but I do feel that many people like them simply don't understand this. We aren't complaining just for the sake of complaining. We complain because we care and want the game to continue to do well. I'd like to think that having the game thrive would be beneficial for everyone, but perhaps I'm mistaken or something. Or maybe I'm just not meant to understand what goes on in other peoples' heads.

[BrokentoothMarch]

This isn't exclusive to Ikara, but I do feel that many people like them simply don't understand this. We aren't complaining just for the sake of complaining. We complain because we care and want the game to continue to do well. I'd like to think that having the game thrive would be beneficial for everyone, but perhaps I'm mistaken or something. Or maybe I'm just not meant to understand what goes on in other peoples' heads.

For some reason, some who invest a lot of time in the game seem to take a tribalist mentality with it where pointing out any flaw that can and should be fixed is some hate-fueled act. Reality is, I hate a great many games. I barely comment on any of them. Because I don't care for them. But I love XIV, so if I feel like it's declining, I have a dog in this race and I feel like most people who act the way I do too. Sure, there may be a troll here or there who bashes the game for fun, but honestly? I'm only saying that to cover my bases. I have yet to see that happen. I've even demanded proof from those who would insist we're simply toxic and hate-filled, only to receive a "I don't need to prove anything to you" in return, effectively implying no such act was found.

It's also why I've been losing more and more of my patience with those like Ikara. I truly, genuinely, and absolutely want this game to do well so I can continue to enjoy playing it for years to come as a result of both what XIV is and, let's be honest, the poor health of the MMO market as of late. To essentially be told I'm not welcome to play a game I love because I might maybe, I don't know, want to enjoy housing? Have races that work? Finally remove all genderlocked clothing? Have the devs be more transparent with us?

Like those things I mentioned up there are minor, but for some esoteric reason, even they can't be solved. A double-standard as any other game would be raked over the coals for this failure, but XIV gets a pass. And another pass. And another pass. Until our expectations are so embedded into the floor it may as well be a grave and I'd very much like to keep games I like outside of those.

/rantover

[SturmChurro]

This isn't exclusive to Ikara, but I do feel that many people like them simply don't understand this. We aren't complaining just for the sake of complaining. We complain because we care and want the game to continue to do well. I'd like to think that having the game thrive would be beneficial for everyone, but perhaps I'm mistaken or something. Or maybe I'm just not meant to understand what goes on in other peoples' heads.

A lot of people actually don't want the game to change, or 'thrive'. It's popularity brings in outsiders, WoW players, for example.

[Vahlnir]

A lot of people actually don't want the game to change, or 'thrive', it's popularity brings in outsiders, WoW players, for example.

In regards to WoW players joining...I'll let them in on a little secret...

We've been here all along.

[Ranaku]

Nothing new, the game has been in a huge decline since Shadowbringer started. While the story got better, everything else suffered, and it's only been downhill since.

I want this game to be heavensword/stormblood level of good gameplay and class design again.

Ah yeah who could forget the famous Heavensword expansion? Right next to Stormbath and Shadowbingers and since you play a Hrothgar don't forget Wigwalker! At least they were all better than A Helm Reborn.

Stay tuned for the next Expansion "Voidlords of Draenor".

[TaleraRistain]

I'd like to think that having the game thrive would be beneficial for everyone.

A lot of the conflict I see is that people simply think differently on the topic or don't find it as much of an issue and they get blasted as bootlickers and white knights. I can see people getting fatigue with those who complain when they get that sort of attitude. Even your response here is rather judgmental, implying that those who don't agree don't want the game thrive as well.

[Vahlnir]

A lot of the conflict I see is that people simply think differently on the topic or don't find it as much of an issue and they get blasted as bootlickers and white knights. I can see people getting fatigue with those who complain when they get that sort of attitude. Even your response here is rather judgmental, implying that those who don't agree don't want the game thrive as well.

The fatigue goes both ways at this point, trust me. And I will admit that I'm not trying to hide it anymore.