What is going on with Square Enix and the 14 team?

[SturmChurro]

Oh absolutely. I started saying it in ShB, when we saw less content and just overall laziness on the devs part and people called me stupid, a hater, how i’m just so wrong and look where we are now. Ngl i’m a bit amused at watching all of this happen. A part of me wonders if they knew the game wouldn’t be sustainable and that’s why they’re focusing on solo friendly content now and why they cut an expansion.

I was right there with you speaking out about how viera/hrothgar were treated, the state of patches, the lack of content, etc. I was right there with you at the start of Endwalker about the lack of gears, the quality of gear, and the hairs for viera, even how I thought the story felt rushed. We were always told to just go play a different game, but the fact of the matter is, we are questioning these decisions, because we care about the game. We want(ed) to see the game succeed.

[Kyrj]

We were always told to just go play a different game

Any lead director who says this about a MMORPG needs to be let go. The sad truth about online gaming like this is that you want people to be as hooked as possible, the more exposure to your game the more likely they're to buy stuff off your cash shop.

[Arzalis]

Any lead director who says this about a MMORPG needs to be let go. The sad truth about online gaming like this is that you want people to be as hooked as possible, the more exposure to your game the more likely they're to buy stuff off your cash shop.

No, I disagree with this.

He's always polite about how he says it, but I appreciate that he doesn't want me to only play this game and generally respects players time. The mentality you're saying they should have is how you get all sorts of time sinks and time wasters in a game. It leads to a lot of predatory practices nobody wants in this game.

[Euphares]

No, I disagree with this.

He's always polite about how he says it, but I appreciate that he doesn't want me to only play this game and generally respects players time. The mentality you're saying they should have is how you get all sorts of time sinks and time wasters in a game. It leads to a lot of predatory practices nobody wants in this game.

You don't think this game has predatory practices in it? That's really funny and exactly why we are in this position.


It's time to wake up, companies aren't your friends, they're here to make money.

[Shin96]

No, I disagree with this.

He's always polite about how he says it, but I appreciate that he doesn't want me to only play this game and generally respects players time. The mentality you're saying they should have is how you get all sorts of time sinks and time wasters in a game. It leads to a lot of predatory practices nobody wants in this game.

Someone that respects your time would challenge you. If you play a job for 100 hours and you've learnt nothing, there was no real improvement made there.

You ultimately might have fun but respecting your time isn't being so indifferent to your strengths that you have to pull everyone down to the same level. This has nothing to do with respect whatsoever.

[Escence]

Of course yoshi is going to be polite because at the end of day he wants you to be still subscribe or making purchase in the cash shop at the end of the day he need to make sure that player keep their subscription active to show square that this game is still successful.

[Ayer2015]

No, I disagree with this.

He's always polite about how he says it, but I appreciate that he doesn't want me to only play this game and generally respects players time. The mentality you're saying they should have is how you get all sorts of time sinks and time wasters in a game. It leads to a lot of predatory practices nobody wants in this game.

100% agree on this. While I enjoy playing FF14, and other games, I have a life I enjoy living as well. I don't need FF14 to be Lost Ark, thanks.

[BrokentoothMarch]

100% agree on this. While I enjoy playing FF14, and other games, I have a life I enjoy living as well. I don't need FF14 to be Lost Ark, thanks.

So we should kneecap the game let it continue to stumble for the demographic of people who don't want to play it that much because they're selfish and think shutting out options for others makes their gameplay better.

This isn't even a good business decision in the most sociopathic sense.

[Roxus]

100% agree on this. While I enjoy playing FF14, and other games, I have a life I enjoy living as well. I don't need FF14 to be Lost Ark, thanks.

If this game respected your time it wouldn't kill off jobs people have invested years in. And I don't know who told you what about Lost Ark, but it's actually less commitment than 14 after the initial hurdle.

[Shin96]

If this game respected your time it wouldn't kill off jobs people have invested years in. And I don't know who told you what about Lost Ark, but it's actually less commitment than 14 after the initial hurdle.

Correct. Before SE decided to remove Kaiten, I think they never outright removed important abilities to the overall job structure. Now, they show you how much they respect your time (sorry this saying is just hilarious lmao) by taking away all the time you've put into your rotation. All the fond days of leveling your job with said ability only for them to swoop in and take it away from you.

I cannot describe how much I hate this respect your time bullshit saying. You are still playing a game digitally and wasting houndreds if not thousands of hours on 'something' with no return. Except now, your brain isn't being used for anything. What's being respected is that you guys are losers to them and they can brush off feedback since you like to invade our spaces and stiffle the discussion about their misconduct.