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    Fukuro's Avatar
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    Oneiron Fuchs
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    Look at healers. Look how long it took them to fix dark knight, something apparently they weren’t aware about whatsoever. So i would rather see people repeat things and keep it up so the devs can see it than let it be ignored yet again like so many other issues.
    This is something that grinds my gears! I know devs won‘t know about every little complain, but there have been some serious outcries from the community that were met with silence. And once people were seriously fed up with it devs acted all surprise. Either many complaints get ignored or there is some serious communication problem.
    I already see the devs act surprised once the healer situation gains enough traction.
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    Mother Kos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fukuro View Post
    I already see the devs act surprised once the healer situation gains enough traction.
    Feigned surprise. There have been questions about the state of healers since SB. The ones that don't get ignored get round about non-answers and the "go play Ultimate" response which has become so infamous.
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    Nana Wiloh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    I could see FFXIV not being profitable enough for Square Enix.
    And thats not to say this game isn't successful, this is me saying Square Enix is terrible with money.
    You just sunk the nail deep into the wood..
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    Kizuya Katogami
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shin96 View Post
    Correct. Before SE decided to remove Kaiten, I think they never outright removed important abilities to the overall job structure. Now, they show you how much they respect your time (sorry this saying is just hilarious lmao) by taking away all the time you've put into your rotation. All the fond days of leveling your job with said ability only for them to swoop in and take it away from you.

    I cannot describe how much I hate this respect your time bullshit saying. You are still playing a game digitally and wasting houndreds if not thousands of hours on 'something' with no return. Except now, your brain isn't being used for anything. What's being respected is that you guys are losers to them and they can brush off feedback since you like to invade our spaces and stiffle the discussion about their misconduct.
    I don’t mean to be rude….but this is kind of extremely tone deaf to healer woes lol and a partial reason why a lot of healer mains are upset atm. Samurai is NOT the first example of SE removing important abilities related to job structure. Let’s look at Scholar for example. They used to basically be the dot healer. They had Aero,Thunder,Shadow flare,Bio, bio 2, Miasma,Bane. Now? They only have bio… Even just looking at their fairies and the job structure around that, the fairies used to be unique and different. Now they’re literally exact clones of each other and use the same abilities. People only notice and speak out about the problems when it’s related to dps. Healer mains have spoken out for 6 years about this and nothing has changed
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    Ara Amai
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    People are always comparing this game to wow and lost ark saying how these games don´t respect your time but never the games with better practices about it like destiny 2 or path of exile that while they are grindy themselves, you don't really have to put that much time into them weekly to be relevant and have fun with said games.
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    Sturm Churro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minarisweet View Post
    People are always comparing this game to wow and lost ark saying how these games don´t respect your time but never the games with better practices about it like destiny 2 or path of exile that while they are grindy themselves, you don't really have to put that much time into them weekly to be relevant and have fun with said games.
    A lot of people with Lost Ark are on a hate bandwagon, and the complaints I've read are pretty ignorant of reality. How many weeks does it take to get geared up in this game on one job? I got the new 'Glavier' class to 1370 in one day, without spending real money on progression. People complaining about Lost Ark exaggerate the pay to win aspect, and simply don't like the perception a honing failure gives. It's largely surface level complaints. I can get through the tiers on a fresh character, in a few weeks. Here, I don't even have my full tomestone set on white mage. It takes like what... 7 weeks to upgrade your weapon?
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 04-25-2022 at 01:47 AM.
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    A lot of people with Lost Ark are on a hate bandwagon, and the complaints I've read are pretty ignorant of reality. How many weeks does it take to get geared up in this game on one job? I got the new 'Glavier' class to 1370 in one day, without spending real money on progression. People complaining about Lost Ark exaggerate the pay to win aspect, and simply don't like the perception a honing failure gives. It's largely surface level complaints. I can get through the tiers on a fresh character, in a few weeks. Here, I don't even have my full tomestone set on white mage. It takes like what... 7 weeks to upgrade your weapon?
    Yeah, Lost Ark is pretty generous when it comes to helping players catch up. I started a month after the game launched and between the rewards offered from quests and dungeons/raids I was able to gear up my character very easily without resorting to using the cash shop. The daily login rewards are so generous that I even ended up having spare materials sitting in my inventory.

    I can also take a break whenever I desire and not lose anything...which cannot be said of FFXIV. I get that different tastes exist but I think it's time FFXIV is viewed with a more critical eye because there are things that other MMO's are doing better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I can also take a break whenever I desire and not lose anything...which cannot be said of FFXIV. I get that different tastes exist but I think it's time FFXIV is viewed with a more critical eye because there are things that other MMO's are doing better.
    Yep, I took a break from FF, and I am still weeks behind in gear. I can't even really gear up my RDM or tank, because I still need to finish up my tomestone set for WHM. I think FF has been able to get away with a lot for so long, because of there being no real competitors other than WoW, and it was generally doing things pretty well for a little while there, but if content remains on this same path, and even the patches have gotten slower, people will start looking elsewhere regardless. They will take that " go play something else", or "this game isn't for you" to heart, and just not come back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Yep, I took a break from FF, and I am still weeks behind in gear. I can't even really gear up my RDM or tank, because I still need to finish up my tomestone set for WHM. I think FF has been able to get away with a lot for so long, because of there being no real competitors other than WoW, and it was generally doing things pretty well for a little while there, but if content remains on this same path, and even the patches have gotten slower, people will start looking elsewhere regardless. They will take that " go play something else", or "this game isn't for you" to heart, and just not come back.
    Yeah, I'd definitely consider there to be some genuine competition right now. I've been spending more of my gaming time on ESO and Lost Ark. There's also some upcoming MMO's that have piqued my curiosity.

    Truth be told, I'd rather just pick one MMO to play and stick with that but FFXIV has been making all sorts of odd decisions lately. The biggest red flags for me are that the 'new story' looks to be more of the same thing and that all of the new expansion features have yet to be implemented.
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    Azira Syuren
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    Balmung
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Saying FF14 never had competition is backwards. It never truly was the competition until recently. That "competition" is frankly only going to have a negative influence on the game from here on if the devs actually take it seriously.

    FF14 gets away with a lot because that's just how the devs are, and the overwhelming majority of the playerbase just doesn't care.
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