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    LisSquid's Avatar
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    Mother Kos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    We didn't know that the devs would begrudgingly work on this. ... We didn't know that the races they'd implement would forever have terrible quality.
    I'm glad you said it, because I can't help feeling like the team scolds us for pointing it out. When someone asked about the state of female Hrothgar, the air felt almost resentful. Why even make them, then? What was the point?
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    Seiko Hanamura
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    "I am indifferent so stop asking for things to get better"

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    Kizuya Katogami
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    Quote Originally Posted by EtherRose View Post
    1.) Healer problems. You mean what healers specifically wanted but never got because SE did things their own way? Just because you want things your way doesn't mean you are going to get it. That's the cold harsh truth unfortunately for MMO's. I've played healer since 1.0 up until ShB. There was nothing done with healers that I felt the need to portray my feelings about.

    2.) Hrothgar and Viera problems. It was known since the beginning that these were "Limited" races. And before these races were even revealed to us Yoshida said he wasn't going to make new races due to manpower/resources. But surprise. Anyways, they were limited for reasons. Player base knew they were limited but still chose to cry about it after they changed.

    3.) Horrid job design for 6.1? I don't know. A majority of the player base seems fine with it. Just because you have a thread on the forum with some-hundred upvotes doesn't mean that voices the other hundred thousand to millions players. I feel like it's only a small core group of people that don't like things.

    As for the other stuff - things happen. But then they fix them and they are VERY transparent on what they are doing. Which is rare for other companies.

    I'm sure it's not the dev's caring anymore. You forget a few things. Pandemic was a factor throughout the work force. CBU3 is working on both FFXVI and FFXIV. They have a strict patch/update schedule. So combine the spread out work force (possibly) with the absurd japanese work culture. And yea.

    But I personally don't think FFXIV is going on such a drastic down spiral like you assume.
    1) That doesn’t support 1 button spam. Sorry.
    2)Then don’t fucking make them? If you. any spare the resources don’t make them! It’s that simple. The fact Hrothgar had to PAY just to change hairs is beyond ridiculous, but also, your lord and savior yoshi p also said that while they were limited, they would get race exclusive hairstyles. Well since you want to bring up all their past comments, why don’t you explain that to me? Oh wait you can’t because then you’d have to admit he lied.When you have the NA EU and JP fanbase upset over it, clearly it’s something the developers are doing wrong. We are paying customers after all.
    3)A majority of the playerbase isn’t fine with it, may i ask where you’re getting your sources? Because people aren’t happy with it on here, they aren’t happy with it on reddit, and they aren’t happy with it on twitter. It’s so bad the devs themselves acknowledged they may rollback the changes in 6.2.

    Please for the love of god stop using Covid as an excuse. Content was missing in ShB before covid was even a thing. The devs themselves stated they were working at 95% efficiency by latch 5.3 in ShB, and that the delays they took were specifically made to accommodate the time lost due to the pandemic. There is no excuse stop trying to flaunt that as one.
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    Tonrak Totorak
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    Gilgamesh
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    Nobody knew that Hrothgar did not have a hairstyle change option in the aesthetician until ShB was released and by then it was already too late for people who switched to Hrothgar as soon as it went live. They never mentioned that Hrothgar would be that limited. Even now people are finding out that Hrothgar could not change hairstyles and its thanks to the recent outrage.
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    Sturm Churro
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    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    Nobody knew that Hrothgar did not have a hairstyle change option in the aesthetician until ShB was released and by then it was already too late for people who switched to Hrothgar as soon as it went live. They never mentioned that Hrothgar would be that limited. Even now people are finding out that Hrothgar could not change hairstyles and its thanks to the recent outrage.
    If I recall (sorry it's been three years), they didn't even have the mogstation store updated to say they couldn't use items, and I don't think the races were listed as limited in game either for awhile.
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    WHM | RDM | DNC

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    Ah yes the usual: It works on my machine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Someone
    Just because other players play the game. Does not mean you got to be mindful, or care
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    The problem ISN'T healers rotation is busted or boring...

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    Areku Foxfire
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    Nothing new, the game has been in a huge decline since Shadowbringer started. While the story got better, everything else suffered, and it's only been downhill since.

    I want this game to be heavensword/stormblood level of good gameplay and class design again.
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    Echo Micacho
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    Nothing new, the game has been in a huge decline since Shadowbringer started. While the story got better, everything else suffered, and it's only been downhill since.

    I want this game to be heavensword/stormblood level of good gameplay and class design again.
    Ah yeah who could forget the famous Heavensword expansion? Right next to Stormbath and Shadowbingers and since you play a Hrothgar don't forget Wigwalker! At least they were all better than A Helm Reborn.

    Stay tuned for the next Expansion "Voidlords of Draenor".
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    Ikara Graydancer
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    Midgardsormr
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    At this point I just wonder how many times the same folks are going to repeat the same "game is declining" stuff til they pack up and just play something else. To me the dev team would never be able to do enough to please alot of these folks
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    Elan Centauri
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrokentoothMarch View Post
    Maybe I like FFXIV. Maybe I want to see it thrive. Maybe I don't want it to decline because I want to stay here.
    This isn't exclusive to Ikara, but I do feel that many people like them simply don't understand this. We aren't complaining just for the sake of complaining. We complain because we care and want the game to continue to do well. I'd like to think that having the game thrive would be beneficial for everyone, but perhaps I'm mistaken or something. Or maybe I'm just not meant to understand what goes on in other peoples' heads.
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