What is going on with Square Enix and the 14 team?

[Haruka_R]

Yes, I mentioned her mother first and when she tried to use it as ammo. You're trying to do the same thing but by proxy, because she thought stating she had an illness would suddenly make me feel like a lousy human being, not realising I probably think she is lying because she would be an evil child to use their mother's persistent disease to win an argument on something like an internet forum, talk about not respecting your mother's condition, you might give her some dignity in life if you at all cared about them. It's a really evil thing to do to use the infirm as a shield wouldn't you agree?

If you didn't care then you wouldn't use something so personal as your mother's dismissing condition or is there some resentment there? I will happily keep your mother out of my mouth because her child doesn't respect her enough not to air her intimate details online. It's sad that I complete stranger might care more about your hypothetically infirm mother more than you do and you call others toxic. How can you ask for respect from others in this community when you don't even respect your own family?

I agree that maybe you should just stop talkin.

[kpxmanifesto]

If you didn't care then you wouldn't use something so personal as your mother's dismissing condition or is there some resentment there? I will happily keep your mother out of my mouth because her child doesn't respect her enough not to air her intimate details online. It's sad that I complete stranger might care more about your hypothetically infirm mother more than you do and you call others toxic. How can you ask for respect from others in this community when you don't even respect your own family?

[SassyAssassin]

If you didn't care then you wouldn't use something so personal as your mother's dismissing condition or is there some resentment there? I will happily keep your mother out of my mouth because her child doesn't respect her enough not to air her intimate details online. It's sad that I complete stranger might care more about your hypothetically infirm mother more than you do and you call others toxic. How can you ask for respect from others in this community when you don't even respect your own family?

What is the meaning of this? I dont agree with her but you are taking things a bit too far. Its a ffxiv forum not a psychology one in which no offense but you both fail not just her. Take your resentment and need to bash others to lift your self esteem somewhere else.

[Vryn]

What is the meaning of this? I dont agree with her but you are taking things a bit too far. Its a ffxiv forum not a psychology one in which no offense but you both fail not just her. Take your resentment and need to bash others to lift your self esteem somewhere else.

It's called a spine, don't use your mother as an evil excuse to try and shame people online. All you do is shame yourself, and I will wreck you in doing it. It's disgusting that you would use an infirm family member that way, and I will happily rectify it. I don't resent her. It's an online forum, and I don't know or respect her, but I will happily go as far as they want to go and then some, so they regret their decision. I'm petty like that because I'm the type of person who will enjoy doing to people who lie like that; if you dont want to get hit, dont do it and tell the truth if you don't like my methods too bad, they are the result of their actions and my own enjoyment in the process.

I even gave them a chance to stop before they escalated the situation. They could have happily ended it there when it was reasonable too. Once they continued my goodwill was gone.

Me caring about your mum wouldn't matter, and you know it doesn't. Stop trying to use your mum's illness as ammo.

The only one being toxic here is you. You came here to argue with people who are very unhappy after today. This, for many people, is the culmination of many years of disappointment and dissatisfaction. Why should anyone give you the respect you think you deserve when you don't show it to them? For many people, this is a breaking point. The prudent thing would have been to allow them to say their piece and then discuss how good the patch was a few days after rather than at 2-4 in the morning, depending on the region, to try and subvert their feelings.

Before you go calling other people toxic, you should know better. How about you show some tact by allowing others who paid their hard-earned cash to have some peace. We get you to disagree, and we know many more do, but the difference is they aren't here trying to start knowingly or unknowingly something to derail the forum. If you have something to say, do it a few days later, not right after it happens.

[Genz]

Nothing special, the game has been overhyped for years, this is just going back to reality.

The game direction - mass producing hand-crafted content to continuously replace previous content - has always been a dangerous gamble. They can never really focus something, and it's only recently they started to look back a little.
The plot is all over the place, the cut-scene quality is awfully random, the battle system is shallow, boss fights have been reduced to one-shot gimmicks (creating the problem with "healing" being nearly inexistent), the "open-world" areas are useless, the quests are lazy, and a lot of other things (like the horrible chocobo races)
None of this is from individual incompetence from the designers or programmers ; they just can't do better because the updates schema makes it impossible to focus on quality.

That being said, today housing bug is probably unrelated to all of this, it's the kind of small bug that happen everywhere ; it just happened to hit at the wrong place.

[aveyond-dreams]

If nothing else perhaps we should be thankful for the housing bug helping to force them to look at the feedback on here that is, seemingly, routinely ignored in favor of reddit and twitter.

[Oglaf]

Between the healer problems for 6 years being ignored, the recent Hrothgar problems where they waited patiently for 3 years and got literal shit, to the horrid job design in 6.1, the pretty controversial story of EW, to now the housing system just imploding on itself. Do the devs just not care anymore? The game is seeing it’s peak, the game is bringing in more money than ever, and yet we’re somehow getting more broken systems. I guess this is what happens when they let the popularity get to their head? They start thinking they can half ass everything and people will continue to stay and kiss up to them. Seeing this community’s history i don’t blame them for thinking that way but…my god. The game is taking such a downward spiral. At this point i’m expecting Ultimate to have some major errors and that would be the icing on the cake.

The the forums are going wild and I have no idea why.

1. What healer problems are you talking about? People have been complaining about healers since 2.0. I have lost track anymore.
2. "Hrothgar problems", we all saw that incoming, they promised to fix, I know. But who will focus efforts on a race played by what? 1%? 3%?
3. We warned people about housing ultimate, yet I'm surprised there is this many salty people.

Ultimate will be fine, we never hard any major issues with raids. So why now?

Edit: I have read all the thread and my god. What a shit show.
So many complaints about core features of the game, I couldn't help but notice join date are all around 2019-2022.
I understand some complaints which has existed since forever and we got answered multiple times by "we are a small team". I don't know if it still holds true in 2022 but I will wait to see the next expansion as they explained on the roadmap.
But again, complaining about core features and the game development direction, are you sure you guys are enjoying the game? Maybe you guys are waiting for the game to become something more familiar? It won't, I'm sorry.

[IkaraGreydancer]

If you didn't care then you wouldn't use something so personal as your mother's dismissing condition or is there some resentment there? I will happily keep your mother out of my mouth because her child doesn't respect her enough not to air her intimate details online. It's sad that I complete stranger might care more about your hypothetically infirm mother more than you do and you call others toxic.

You may be able to manipulate the masses here but I won't be buying your "I care more and am better than you" attitude. Again you can assume what you want. I know what my intentions are and what the truth is.

You brought my mother up (which is the fact of the matter) which is already personal but hey you'd rather point fingers and say "no you" again like a child. Again just stop dude and get back on topic instead of ego stroking

[Vryn]

You may be able to manipulate the masses here but I won't be buying your "I care more and am better than you" attitude. Again you can assume what you want. I know what my intentions are and what the truth is.

You brought my mother up (which is the fact of the matter) which is already personal but hey you'd rather point fingers and say "no you" again like a child. Again just stop dude and get back on topic instead of ego stroking

I'm, not Sauron nor am I the one using their infirm family members as chess pieces on the board to win an internet argument. Of course, I brought your mother as a matter of fact and you brought up her disease as a matter of fact. Bringing people's mothers up as a passing remark about your cowardice isn't that personal but your mother's disease certainly is. Show her some respect next time and the only one ego-stroking her is you and rather sick that you do it using a family in such a condition. the fact that Stanger has to tell you this is shocking,

[BrokentoothMarch]

You may be able to manipulate the masses here but I won't be buying your "I care more and am better than you" attitude. Again you can assume what you want. I know what my intentions are and what the truth is.

You brought my mother up (which is the fact of the matter) which is already personal but hey you'd rather point fingers and say "no you" again like a child. Again just stop dude and get back on topic instead of ego stroking

Honestly, can you stop your insipid bickering? "Go back to your mom" is an insult. It's not a direct reference to your mother. You didn't like that you got insulted. You tried to hang your relative's tragedy over the head of someone on the internet because you're a blackhearted creature who will abuse that if you can get away with it. They're petty and won't disengage despite this obvious note meaning you can't be reasoned with.

This is just a useless back and forth. It's okay, ladies. You're both insufferable.

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Anyways back on topic. There has been a pretty significant quality drop since Stormblood that has continued on and on. People are saying this all began with the downfall of WoW creating a vacuum of competition, but I believe this began with the success of 2.0 and the applauded release of HW. Whether it's enforced or not anymore, there was also a rule on the forums that explicitly forbade criticizing the developers back then which was actually enforced if we see posted videos in some medias such as Reddit. This, with what Yoshi has admittedly done well in the long past, has created a very strong forgiving backbone of people who will excuse or ignore any failing of the development team. Certainly, I agree this bug is small, but it's that very reason that this is flagrantly incompetent. To say nothing of the 75% unfavorable split and the continued exhaustion people have with housing. It's only now we realize it because enough things are beginning to stumble that the boiling point is being reached, but I promise this is a very long time coming.