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    Moonlite's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clover_Blake View Post
    We... don't get less gear.
    We definitely get more than back when the game started.

    We get 1 dg instead of 2 (thanks god), and because of that, they add other different kinds of cool content.

    (Smaller maps? What do you mean?)

    Four sets I can think of are reused assets. This expansion has not been a glowing example of skilled gear design. Every expansion has seen less sets then the last one. You can say quality is better they are more unique, that doesn't invalidate the statement less sets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlite View Post
    Four sets I can think of are reused assets. This expansion has not been a glowing example of skilled gear design. Every expansion has seen less sets then the last one. You can say quality is better they are more unique, that doesn't invalidate the statement less sets.
    But that's untrue. Every expansion comes with the same number of new sets, and with some recoloured ones. Endwalker doesn't have less sets than previous expansions. And the sets have seen an improvement because now the dg and raid ones come as dyeable, unlike how they were in the past.
    We also get more crafted glamours per patch than we did before.

    (Note: glamours are my favourite part of every expansion and the one feature I pay the most attention to. I would be disappointed if we got less. But we did not).

    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Technically we do. As good looking as all the new gearsets are, they've been using a lot of the "everyone has essentially the same gear, but color swapped" technique lately.
    This is untrue as well. Some classes have always shared the same model with different colours, but we're getting the same number of designs per set (which is... 4? Or 5, not sure). I wish everyone got the same gear; I'm really loving both the DRG and BRD models from the latest patches, which I can't wear on my WHM character unless I level those classes. I guess I'll have to do it!
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    Areku Foxfire
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sclair0 View Post
    For a serious attempt at an answer... I think its mostly feature creep, they're moving forward with multiple pieces of content at once and not giving them enough attention individually. Which is why I think we get lower quantities of things (smaller maps, less dungeons, less gear etc.)

    Not to say that excuses anything. Just that I think thats the reason, attention divided between fixing ongoing issues and systems and producing new content at the same time.
    This is weird to me because endwalker has less content and gameplay then every expansion that came before it in previous .1 patches except maybe shadowbringer.

    So unsure feature creep is the case really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Some of us have seen what was happening, and talking about it for years. It seems "Endwalker" was aptly named.

    I'm not sure what is going on, but it does feel like they have become complacent with the game's success. Apparently, siphoning funds to other projects, moving devs over, etc. Yoshida being "surprised" at negative feedback, gives me the feeling that much of our feedback here simply isn't getting to the devs unless it's a very big issue, but not only that, a lot of players themselves were satisfied enough with the game that they wouldn't speak out.
    Oh absolutely. I started saying it in ShB, when we saw less content and just overall laziness on the devs part and people called me stupid, a hater, how i’m just so wrong and look where we are now. Ngl i’m a bit amused at watching all of this happen. A part of me wonders if they knew the game wouldn’t be sustainable and that’s why they’re focusing on solo friendly content now and why they cut an expansion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    Oh absolutely. I started saying it in ShB, when we saw less content and just overall laziness on the devs part and people called me stupid, a hater, how i’m just so wrong and look where we are now. Ngl i’m a bit amused at watching all of this happen. A part of me wonders if they knew the game wouldn’t be sustainable and that’s why they’re focusing on solo friendly content now and why they cut an expansion.
    I was right there with you speaking out about how viera/hrothgar were treated, the state of patches, the lack of content, etc. I was right there with you at the start of Endwalker about the lack of gears, the quality of gear, and the hairs for viera, even how I thought the story felt rushed. We were always told to just go play a different game, but the fact of the matter is, we are questioning these decisions, because we care about the game. We want(ed) to see the game succeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    We were always told to just go play a different game
    Any lead director who says this about a MMORPG needs to be let go. The sad truth about online gaming like this is that you want people to be as hooked as possible, the more exposure to your game the more likely they're to buy stuff off your cash shop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyrj View Post
    Any lead director who says this about a MMORPG needs to be let go. The sad truth about online gaming like this is that you want people to be as hooked as possible, the more exposure to your game the more likely they're to buy stuff off your cash shop.
    No, I disagree with this.

    He's always polite about how he says it, but I appreciate that he doesn't want me to only play this game and generally respects players time. The mentality you're saying they should have is how you get all sorts of time sinks and time wasters in a game. It leads to a lot of predatory practices nobody wants in this game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arzalis View Post
    No, I disagree with this.

    He's always polite about how he says it, but I appreciate that he doesn't want me to only play this game and generally respects players time. The mentality you're saying they should have is how you get all sorts of time sinks and time wasters in a game. It leads to a lot of predatory practices nobody wants in this game.
    You don't think this game has predatory practices in it? That's really funny and exactly why we are in this position.


    It's time to wake up, companies aren't your friends, they're here to make money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    People have so much of their identity invested into this game that they're essentially incapable of admitting it's possible to just be bad at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arzalis View Post
    No, I disagree with this.

    He's always polite about how he says it, but I appreciate that he doesn't want me to only play this game and generally respects players time. The mentality you're saying they should have is how you get all sorts of time sinks and time wasters in a game. It leads to a lot of predatory practices nobody wants in this game.
    Someone that respects your time would challenge you. If you play a job for 100 hours and you've learnt nothing, there was no real improvement made there.

    You ultimately might have fun but respecting your time isn't being so indifferent to your strengths that you have to pull everyone down to the same level. This has nothing to do with respect whatsoever.
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    Of course yoshi is going to be polite because at the end of day he wants you to be still subscribe or making purchase in the cash shop at the end of the day he need to make sure that player keep their subscription active to show square that this game is still successful.
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