What is going on with Square Enix and the 14 team?

[Vryn]

I think it's incredibly ironic the people complaining the most in this thread about people shutting down their criticisms are the ones who are shutting down any positive word the strongest. Not that people don't have valid complaints. But we all should be able to give our feedback without being insulted. Terms like "white knight" or "blind to issues" or "shilling" when someone says something positive is just as non-constructive as calling someone a whiner for bringing up complaints. Acting like anyone who doesn't agree with everything you find wrong with the game doesn't have any complaints at all is probably not winning you any friends.

I'll use Yoshi's own words a complaint is worth twice as much as a positive comment.

[TaleraRistain]

Everyone is free to have their own opinions. If they want to try to spread positivity, that's their choice, but it's not exactly the best time. Do I like some of the things they added with this patch? Sure. But they've gotta give respect to get it, and I feel very disrespected right now as a customer. I think a lot of people are done playing nice. I am one of those people. We don't need people praising the developers right now. Now is the time to draw our line in the sand.

Perfectly valid for you to feel disrespected. NOT valid for you to crap on anyone who doesn't. And if people want to praise the developers and focus on the things they like, they have just as much right to do so as you do. No one is telling you to play nice with the developers. Don't turn your vitriol on other players who don't think the same as you do.

I saw someone on this very thread say they thought this patch as great and a whole lot of you just dogpiled on them. Their opinion is just as valid as yours.

[Vryn]

Perfectly valid for you to feel disrespected. NOT valid for you to crap on anyone who doesn't. And if people want to praise the developers and focus on the things they like, they have just as much right to do so as you do—no one telling you to play nice with the developers. Don't turn your vitriol on other players who don't think the same as you do.

I saw someone on this thread say they thought this patch was great, and a lot of you just dogpiled on them. Their opinion is just as valid as yours.

Crap? Just because you don't like the words he uses or the tone of his reasoning doesn't mean he's crapping on them. If people want to praise Square, they can start their thread rather than coming into a complaint thread to subvert people trying to vent their concerns about the game, which is more malicious than someone being slightly blunt with them.

It was okay if they thought it was great, but they make their thread. Who thought people would be happy with others telling them to calm down or that their opinion is somehow worthless because they revamped PVP? How else did you think they were going to take it?

There is a time and place for this, and it's not on this thread. It would be on their post. It's like someone who has cancer being told it is not bad because they had a great life.

[Haruka_R]

Pretty sure having cancer is worse than losing a house in a video game. :/

[Syrri]

It's like someone who has cancer being told it is not bad because they had a great life.

Agreed, its disgusting how many of these white knights can't just take these complaints seriously, this whole thread is absolutely and completely 100% as serious as a terminal illness and we will not be denied our agency to fight back against the evil developers!

/s

[Vryn]

Pretty sure having cancer is worse than losing a house in a video game. :/

Did it take a medical degree for you to figure that one out?

[Haruka_R]

Did it take a medical degree for you to figure that one out?

Comparing cancer to a video game though.

[Clover_Blake]

(smaller maps, less dungeons, less gear etc.)

We... don't get less gear.
We definitely get more than back when the game started.

We get 1 dg instead of 2 (thanks god), and because of that, they add other different kinds of cool content.

(Smaller maps? What do you mean?)

[Allegor]

Comparing cancer to a video game though.

It's not a comparison to be taken literally.... most people (hopefully) never deal with cancer, and they don't need to to know it's bad.

We... don't get less gear.

Technically we do. As good looking as all the new gearsets are, they've been using a lot of the "everyone has essentially the same gear, but color swapped" technique lately.

[Vryn]

Comparing cancer to a video game though.

So, the majority of my family died from it you don't hear me complaining, it's a part of life hun and so is being disappointed in a product so let people vent. It's not about your moral outrage.