What is going on with Square Enix and the 14 team?

[Deceptus]

Nothing will ever come close to as tone-deaf as WoW was during BfA and Shadowlands by a mile given the issues that took months for them to address were brought up in beta and promptly ignored.

It's literally taken them years to fix Living Dead, so please spare me the white-knightery.

And we don't get access to a beta or a PTR where a lot of these issues could be caught and rectified instead of having to point them out on patch day.

[Leemon]

While there are problems to be as hyperbolic as some here are being is a bit disingenuous don't you think? Most of the issues brought up have been addressed or are being reviewed, that would never happen in say WoW. I will be happy as long as I know it is being addressed or reviewed. I will admit there are problems of course but they fact they have been pretty open about it and willing to try to make amends/adjustments where possible tells me this ain't close to begin nearly as bad as WoW, no dev has gone "We don't want you playing *insert class here*" yet.

Nothing will ever come close to as tone-deaf as WoW was during BfA and Shadowlands by a mile given the issues that took months for them to address were brought up in beta and promptly ignored.

When you compare shit against shit, you can only wonder which is less shitty.

[Lily_Skye]

too busy making FF16

spoiler: is going to flop like FF15

[Yura_M]

too busy making FF16

spoiler: is going to flop like FF15

FF15 got shit on but didn't flop, far from it if you look at the sales.
Vocal minority can be pretty vocal.

[KizuyaKatogami]

It's okay to criticize a game- more so if our money is involved.
It's why I have a megathread for hairstyles & beards, bc I know trying to approach a broader amount would attain nothing as my past threads have shown. I personally, do not think we should have to or want to rely on character mods to satisfy our want for better character features/ designs.

I want to see more masculine styles, new faces that have beards etc
For female characters, I want more make-up options & braids, curly hair, more dreads etc
I want to see the devs put more time into adding more cosmetic features in XIV when it comes to the character creating process- just need folks to be constructively and consistent while banding together so it sees more light.

My two biggest complaints for XIV is the housing & the character creator. That's just me.

People have been constructive and polite. Healer mains have pleaded with the devs for years. 6+. And his latest response is to go play ultimate if you want healers to feel engaging. Yet someone in here has the audacity to say nothing will come close to WoW’s tone deafness? Please

[Midareyukki]

People have been constructive and polite. Healer mains have pleaded with the devs for years. 6+. And his latest response is to go play ultimate if you want healers to feel engaging. Yet someone in here has the audacity to say nothing will come close to WoW’s tone deafness? Please

Honestly, this. Basically this.

Yeah guys, it's not WoW levels of deafness. But there has been a lot of earwax building up, and you can see it already.

We just want them to clean their ears, we're not saying it's already WoW levels of bad. We just don't want it to get there.

[Y2K21]

Honestly, this. Basically this.

Yeah guys, it's not WoW levels of deafness. But there has been a lot of earwax building up, and you can see it already.

We just want them to clean their ears, we're not saying it's already WoW levels of bad. We just don't want it to get there.

Could be worse and be TF2 level of tone deafness.

[HeyMcFly]

People have been constructive and polite. Healer mains have pleaded with the devs for years. 6+. And his latest response is to go play ultimate if you want healers to feel engaging. Yet someone in here has the audacity to say nothing will come close to WoW’s tone deafness? Please

You don't need to tell me the goings on- I'm well aware & I've pitched my complaints for years just like others have- the point of my posts is to keep going- keep add it, be constructive & give criticism.
So, "please".
Unless you quoted the wrong person, I've mentioned nothing about WoW.

[Theodric]

Honestly, the WoW comparisons are strange to me because...it can easily be inferred that after seeing the decline of WoW in real time many players moved over to FFXIV who are now seeing the exact same decline here as well.

WoW didn't collapse into controversy over the course of a single expansion. It was a slow, steady process that consisted of many different problems stacking up atop one another. Even then, many players rushed to stifle feedback and pretend everything was fine.

[PaulH]

Honestly, the WoW comparisons are strange to me because...it can easily be inferred that after seeing the decline of WoW in real time many players moved over to FFXIV who are now seeing the exact same decline here as well.

WoW didn't collapse into controversy over the course of a single expansion. It was a slow, steady process that consisted of many different problems stacking up atop one another. Even then, many players rushed to stifle feedback and pretend everything was fine.

Absolutely!!

I am looking forward to cross DC travel so I can find you Theodric (Matthieu) for man hugs from Odin -> Cerberus as I do like your forum posts :-D