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    Player Xavier_Firbold's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SnowVix View Post
    no, because then you can get a result of 7 when the only bids are 1 - 6, again, you are making an excellent example of why armchair devs aren't listened to.
    Surely just if number = 0 just add 1 would fix it then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier_Firbold View Post
    Surely just if number = 0 just add 1 would fix it then?
    So now you've given ticket 1 double the chance of every other ticket, which is honestly even worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Violet_Galaxy View Post
    I think we all should be compensated since it seems like we're the housing lottery QA team!
    Woah, I didn't realise we are all salaried play testers employed by square enix. We should unionise! Higher pay and pay our subs too if the devs are gonna make us use systems that just straight up don't work
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    Last edited by Manofpassion; 04-17-2022 at 02:54 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnowVix View Post
    So now you've given ticket 1 double the chance of every other ticket, which is honestly even worse.
    ... No it wouldn't? 0+1, 1+1, 2+1, and so forth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier_Firbold View Post
    Surely just if number = 0 just add 1 would fix it then?
    In easy terms, we're (likely) looking at:

    0+bids (which is what your initial "bug fix" suggestion still is)

    tacking on +1 would just make it:
    0+bids+1

    so it would end up pulling, in an example of 5 bids on a house, anywhere from 0-6 (so 2 bids that don't exist). Further exacerbating the problem. They need to make it so that it the RNG does NOT at ALL consider 0 as a possible bid, UNLESS there are 0 bids.
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    Last edited by MilkieTea; 04-17-2022 at 02:51 AM.
    Off-Topic Discussion Megathread: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/434886-Off-Topic-Discussion-Megathread
    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    No thanks. Housing is fine as it is

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier_Firbold View Post
    Surely just if number = 0 just add 1 would fix it then?
    They're saying that rand pulls a number from 0 to the upper limit, so if you just +1 you can end up with a ticket number that doesn't exist if it happens to draw the highest number.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    This is the kind of thing that should have been picked up immediately in QA testing, so definitely seems like there was either zero or very little testing.
    Exactly - who is to blame here? The developer who started this mess? The manager who didn't check the work? The QA guy who didn't do enough? Let's not forget the QC guy - was he looking at porn instead? Their managers who aren't doing their own QA/QC? The failure of not checking this on the pre-prod environment by testers? Or, the Director for letting it all pass through?

    I pick "All of the above" personally.
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    I had bid on a medium in the FC ward and was the only bidder. When 11:00 AM came, I was so damn happy I knew I had won this plot for my FC but nope, I lost to the 0 so now I'm just waiting to see what's going to happen.
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    the real answer here is that the timing should have been such that the winners were pulled Monday morning (Japan time) so that any glitches specific to the lotto drawing would have happened when the devs were in the office.
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    We were told Hrothgar and Viera were designed differently from the very start and that these things would be difficult. Obviously they care about textures when they announced a graphics update for 7.0 and changed them in 2.0 dungeons.

    There are no relic steps for EW because the relics are not normally released until the 6.25 patch.

    The "dumbing down and homogenization" can be seen from another perspective which is that they want to make jobs less annoying to play, such as stopping you from having to aim a cone while pulling mobs on a tank. I agree it's starting to go too far but their intention is just to make it less annoying.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

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