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    Player Xavier_Firbold's Avatar
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    Xavier Alexander
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    You can't even code a simple random number picker correctly.

    As have others, I've recently once again come unstuck by the absolute joy that is "the dev team".

    You're asking us to ignore the Hrothgar issues.
    And the Viera issues, male and female.
    The hideous textures on armor.
    The lack of new gear pieces for EW.
    The lack of Relic steps for EW.
    The constant dumbing down and homogenization of the entire play structure.

    But now, you guys, sat wherever you are, can't even make a random number picker work correctly.

    Yep, my FC is full of sprouts and lower level players, they're up and coming, your TARGET audience. They've saved just north of 50 mill combined between around 15 active players.

    They/we were all so giddy with excitment for the Lottery, I knew there was a fairly large chance for disappointment in the lottery, but that's life.

    Little did I know they would be completely decimated by you, the creators of the game.

    I was around for the continual demise of WoW, the current state of this game is echoing something of that, around the same time as MOP.

    How this EVER could have gotten through Q+A - I hope the person responsible loses their job irrelevant of seniority.

    So f**** disappointed in you guys. This is literally 12 year old levels of code required to make this work properly.
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    Last edited by Xavier_Firbold; 04-17-2022 at 12:55 AM.

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    I have to wonder if the numbers were all shifted by 1. Meaning that if 0 was a possible win, was the very last lottery entrant excluded completely (hence why people who had ticket #1 lost)
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    Player Padudu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nythia View Post
    I have to wonder if the numbers were all shifted by 1. Meaning that if 0 was a possible win, was the very last lottery entrant excluded completely (hence why people who had ticket #1 lost)
    Two people in my FC won with their ticket being #1.. so I think this is not the case, but I could be interpreting what you're saying wrong, I'm not going to pretend I know anything about coding lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nythia View Post
    I have to wonder if the numbers were all shifted by 1. Meaning that if 0 was a possible win, was the very last lottery entrant excluded completely (hence why people who had ticket #1 lost)
    I dont think this can be the case. We're getting messages saying "No participants in the lottery" with a participant count of 1. And besides... Nobodies claiming any of the properties? Like a few plots vacant would make sense but dozens? Its definitely more than registering the first bid as bid 0
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    Aelin Ashriver
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nythia View Post
    I have to wonder if the numbers were all shifted by 1. Meaning that if 0 was a possible win, was the very last lottery entrant excluded completely (hence why people who had ticket #1 lost)
    My ticket was #1 and I won.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nythia View Post
    I have to wonder if the numbers were all shifted by 1. Meaning that if 0 was a possible win, was the very last lottery entrant excluded completely (hence why people who had ticket #1 lost)
    It's more likely that every house had a default "Ticket 0", which would be the winner if no one entered the lottery on a plot (hence the "No Participants" message) to put it on bidding lock until the next round of lotteries, and someone forgot to make sure it would be excluded when player tickets were made (e.g. making sure the lower bound of the random number generator was 1 instead 0 if a player entered, or making sure it pulled from NumberOfTickets - 1 (because Ticket 0 exists) then adding + 1 to whatever was generated so that Ticket 0 would never be selected).

    So instead of there just being Tickets 1, 2, 3 in the draw, there was actually Tickets 0, 1, 2, 3, with Ticket 0 actually being intended for plots with no participation.
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    Last edited by Jax-chan; 04-17-2022 at 02:53 AM. Reason: clarification

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    Indie company btw.

    Yes, they did many things right before, but the current direction they're taking is no better than your other typical Korean MMORPG developer/publisher.
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    And the usual half-assed nature of this dev team continues to shine bright.

    I don't know why anyone is surprised at this point.
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    Erakir Pompop
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nythia View Post
    I have to wonder if the numbers were all shifted by 1. Meaning that if 0 was a possible win, was the very last lottery entrant excluded completely (hence why people who had ticket #1 lost)
    There are reports on the reddit thread of people winning with the highest number (i.e. 8 bidders, #8 wins) so it doesn't appear to be a purely off-by-one error. Seems like the whole range was considered plus zero, or something else internal is going on.

    The QA & coders are hopefully getting reamed into the ground right now for whatever the underlying issue is considering how significant a feature this was.
    And they deserve it. Even if this was their failsafe, it's a pathetically displayed one that serves to confuse and disrupt the players.
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    Last edited by Erakir; 04-17-2022 at 01:18 AM.

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    Cain Andleft
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erakir View Post
    There are reports on the reddit thread of people winning with the highest number (i.e. 8 bidders, #8 wins) so it doesn't appear to be a purely off-by-one error. Seems like the whole range was considered plus zero.

    This sort of thing is the basics among basics and the QA & coders are hopefully getting reamed into the ground right now for whatever the underlying issue is considering how significant a feature this was.
    If this was the case, then it's definitely not a beginner's coding issue. It's most likely a system crash issue. A programmer usually does a failsafe so the whole system doesn't crash. Most likely, midway through going through the processing, the system overloaded and crashed, so it started outputting null values or 0s. Thus, while some winners were processed, the remaining plots had the winner become 0.

    The chances of THIS many plots getting 0 is a little too high for this to be RNG.
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