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  1. #31
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    Dustytome's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    Here is the thing, they wont be able to see anything if we get into the next lottery period,
    They've already stated on the lodestone that the entire system is paused until they work out the bugs.

    As we investigate and address the issue, we will be extending the result announcement period which was previously set to end on Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 7:59 a.m. (PDT).

    * We will not enter into the next lottery cycle until the investigation is complete and the situation is addressed.
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  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    At least give the plots to the clear winners and further re-imburse those where there was 2 or more trying to get an FC house/player house.
    The amount of tickets that would need to be checked would be insane, its not going to happen. They also cant reroll as players already decorated etc. if they did that the shitstorm would FAR outweigh any of this.

    Considering they had problems with an automated system ... them reviewing and handling this on a ticket by ticket case and doing it manually would cause even more problems. Its a massive L from SE and a massive F for the community. The faster you get to terns with this the easier it will be.

    You get your money back and that's it, the player base will get a pity few days of few subscription. This will cause the white knights to shield up and say "well you got something now shut up" and spam all posts with critical posts. There will be no accountability to SE or Yoshi P and criticism even the valid and well phrased one will be shut down.

    Then again, this forum has been proven time and time to be unmoderated except for bug and problems section, no one will ever read ANY comments unless their reported lol. So any and all feed back that is not directly submitted via the mail thing is void and pointless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidedge_Ragna View Post
    The amount of tickets that would need to be checked would be insane, its not going to happen. They also cant reroll as players already decorated etc. if they did that the shitstorm would FAR outweigh any of this.

    Considering they had problems with an automated system ... them reviewing and handling this on a ticket by ticket case and doing it manually would cause even more problems. Its a massive L from SE and a massive F for the community. The faster you get to terns with this the easier it will be.

    You get your money back and that's it, the player base will get a pity few days of few subscription. This will cause the white knights to shield up and say "well you got something now shut up" and spam all posts with critical posts. There will be no accountability to SE or Yoshi P and criticism even the valid and well phrased one will be shut down.

    Then again, this forum has been proven time and time to be unmoderated except for bug and problems section, no one will ever read ANY comments unless their reported lol. So any and all feed back that is not directly submitted via the mail thing is void and pointless.
    We honestly don't know what they are or are not capable of doing with the system at this point. It could be they can set it to reroll winning numbers on any plots still available for purchase.

    We'll have to wait and see what fix they come up with.

    I also don't think you understand what forum moderation is. Moderation has nothing to do with feedback. It has to do with making certain anything posted is acceptable under the forum rules.

    That does not mean that the forums are not monitored for feedback, which we know does get passed on as their have been changes made in the past based on player feedback - like adding a lottery so players no longer have to placard camp.
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    We honestly don't know what they are or are not capable of doing with the system at this point. It could be they can set it to reroll winning numbers on any plots still available for purchase.

    We'll have to wait and see what fix they come up with.

    I also don't think you understand what forum moderation is. Moderation has nothing to do with feedback. It has to do with making certain anything posted is acceptable under the forum rules.

    That does not mean that the forums are not monitored for feedback, which we know does get passed on as their have been changes made in the past based on player feedback - like adding a lottery so players no longer have to placard camp.
    There are 2 ways to communicate with SE, the live letter threats in which they pull questions and the web page ticket system. There is zero interaction on a forum level beside the "oh hey this post has 100 pages maybe look at it", which is what happened to the male Viera and lotto system. So no unless you create a massive explosion, no one will read it. Or do you really believe posts with 2-3 pages are even looked at?

    We will indeed have to wait and see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    patience has run out when they did not QA/Test the lottery system, it would had shown the problem pretty much asap
    You don't know that to any degree of certainty. Not all problems are as simple as they appear, or as easy to coax out of the build.
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  6. #36
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    This is all such a disaster. I can't believe this has been allowed to happen. Someone should have warned me I was going to need more then one tin of popcorn for this weekend's entertainment.
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sindele View Post
    You don't know that to any degree of certainty. Not all problems are as simple as they appear, or as easy to coax out of the build.
    With this one, if they tested it... not just by a couple of attempts on their test server or where they test this module at... then it is clear they only run like maybe 1-5 tries or something and got 1 or higher every time... its something they could had tested by a 1000, for a generator or the likes running it on auto matic and see if any oddities show up.
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