Broken Lottery, Please Rollback

[YandeBunny]

That isn't a point at all. I am one of those winners; and like many other people have told you EVERY lottery so far was unfair. Some plots just happened to land on the zeroes that shouldn't have been included.
If you pick and choose then you're bittering more people than you're pleasing.

It's nice to know you're okay that you won and still feel your plot should be put up for recount in the lottery with the chance that you are not guaranteed a second win. However, what of those who relocated? How would they be able to make up for that if they accepted the win, relocated and now have a plot that's put back into lottery. Meaning they may have lost there FC in the process of agreeing to relocate. This wouldn't make things right, but worse. I don't think they should/would do it for all the plots. Just the ones that got 0. Yes, it's not fair, and Im also agreeing that those who did win got the advantage and should just live with it because SE messed up.

[Useri]

For those saying not to roll back, its not just this lotto that is unfair. My FC wanted a lot so all of us put in. We got the 0 bug.

I want to also attempt a private lot in something that opens from those relocating. I know my chances are already low. But now I can't even enter because I have to try once again for the FC lot if they don't figure out a different fix.

[ToppeHatte]

It's nice to know you're okay that you won and still feel your plot should be put up for recount in the lottery with the chance that you are not guaranteed a second win. However, what of those who relocated? How would they be able to make up for that if they accepted the win, relocated and now have a plot that's put back into lottery. Meaning they may have lost there FC in the process of agreeing to relocate. This wouldn't make things right, but worse. I don't think they should/would do it for all the plots. Just the ones that got 0. Yes, it's not fair, and Im also agreeing that those who did win got the advantage and should just live with it because SE messed up.

I am not saying I support this, but in theory I'd imagine it'd be possible for them to potentially rollback every single housing ward in the game so old plots were restored as well, but that's an entirely new can of worms I'm sure the dev team isn't eager to open.

[HyoMinPark]

I don't think it's that 0 was in the pool so much as it just voided any bids on plots in general. I don't think it would say there are no active participants as opposed to just saying the winning number.



I don't have a screenshot for the second instance as I looked around this morning to see who got affected, but I recall seeing a small house that said "The winning number was 3" that wasn't claimed yet, and is now.

EDIT: Nevermind I found one.

When I went around looking on my server, I saw the top error mostly on 1 bid only plots, but it did appear on some that had more than one. One plot had 10 bids, but it said that there weren’t any participants.

I wasn’t able to find one that said “The winning entry is 0” like how the second image shows 5 is the winner for that plot. So I’m not sure if the “there were no participants” is a default message prompted by the 0 that is displayed only to people who didn’t participate in the plot. Where as winners can see the “the winning entry is 0”.

[YandeBunny]

I am not saying I support this, but in theory I'd imagine it'd be possible for them to potentially rollback every single housing ward in the game so old plots were restored as well, but that's an entirely new can of worms I'm sure the dev team isn't eager to open.

You do have a point...it is possible they would be looking at the "bigger" picture of this situation, but I truly hope they do not do it. Begging even. If they do, they need to rollback and reserve those plots that did get a "relocation" back to the original FC owners so that there are no losses. I don't know if private houses can relocate, but as a FC leader, I Was hoping to just upgrade to a medium from a small. I would be horrified if I won and only found out i gotta try my luck again LOL.

[ForteNightshade]

My FC won our draw, all I see is extreme selfishness from others who think they're more entitled to 'win' on an erroneous lottery. Don't kid yourself, nobody going for a house for the last 3 years would be happy with playtime compensation.

Since you're so quick to throw around pejoratives, let's go through a little exercise. Say they can force the relinquishment of all Ishgard plots and refund every single participate, essentially starting over. However, they cannot rollback previously owned houses. In other words, if you relocated a large from Lavender Beds to Empyreum, you'll have 50M gil, no house and now only a chance at returning to your status quo.

Would such an outcome be fair? Or is that too entitled as well?

And before anyone says they could rollback everyone to their previous state. We don't actually know the limitations here. A rollback of that significance isn't simply you can just... do. If they could Thanos snap Saturday morning and return everything back to exactly how it was prior, we could entertain a rollback. Unfortunately, we have no idea if that's possible. Considering how egregious this mistake is, it's hardly unwarranted to assume they didn't prepare a backup in case something went wrong.

[Grinnaux]

It's nice to know you're okay that you won and still feel your plot should be put up for recount in the lottery with the chance that you are not guaranteed a second win. However, what of those who relocated? How would they be able to make up for that if they accepted the win, relocated and now have a plot that's put back into lottery. Meaning they may have lost there FC in the process of agreeing to relocate. This wouldn't make things right, but worse. I don't think they should/would do it for all the plots. Just the ones that got 0. Yes, it's not fair, and Im also agreeing that those who did win got the advantage and should just live with it because SE messed up.

You really shouldn't assume that none of us who won relocated. Or gloss over everything that was said about instanced rollbacks.
My friend had bid on the same medium in ward 1 as you. One of those that has a #0 winner. Would you be arguing so hard against a rollback if you had lost to him?
I'm sure of your answer but after reading your posts I don't believe it. Just some food for thought. Enjoy your day everyone.

Since you're so quick to throw around pejoratives, let's go through a little exercise. Say they can force the relinquishment of all Ishgard plots and refund every single participate, essentially starting over. However, they cannot rollback previously owned houses. In other words, if you relocated a large from Lavender Beds to Empyreum, you'll have 50M gil, no house and now only a chance at returning to your status quo.

Would such an outcome be fair? Or is that too entitled as well?

And before anyone says they could rollback everyone to their previous state. We don't actually know the limitations here. A rollback of that significance isn't simply you can just... do. If they could Thanos snap Saturday morning and return everything back to exactly how it was prior, we could entertain a rollback. Unfortunately, we have no idea if that's possible. Considering how egregious this mistake is, it's hardly unwarranted to assume they didn't prepare a backup in case something went wrong.

The other poster is correct in saying that this is possible. It's been done before in cases of housing sale scams.

[Aethen]

Roll backs would not be a good idea. Some got their house and they were the only bidder... why should they risk losing it? No, devs needs to fix all bids where winner was 0 only.

[Useri]

But people have accepted their refunds. Is it even possible for them to do a select rollback for houses with 0 as winner?

[ForteNightshade]

The other poster is correct in saying that this is possible. It's been done before in cases of housing sale scams.

Rolling back a single account is a far cry from rolling back five entire wards with thousands of accounts affected. They also didn't rollback ownership. GMs simply removed gil from the scammer and gifted the victim it back, thus allowing them to repurchase their plot. We can't repurchase plots right now. So...