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  1. #51
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    Greyhawk's Avatar
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    Coven Whitewolf
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 100
    "We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this may cause."

    I called it, lol.
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  2. #52
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    Frost Bit
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    Adamantoise
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Same happened to me, what a QA nightmare! SE seems to be looking into the problem but this is a mess.

    I made a support ticket as well.
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  3. #53
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    Hatfright's Avatar
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    Sono Faolain
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    Spriggan
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Same thing. I was the only bidder on the chosen plot for my FC, didn't win.
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    "The world is indeed full of peril, and in it there are many dark places; but still there is much that is fair, and though in all lands love is now mingled with grief, it grows perhaps the greater."
    J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring

  4. #54
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    Wil Stormrider
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    Coeurl
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Lost to 0 here as well. Only bid on the small plot too.
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  5. #55
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    Bell Bix'bite
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    Behemoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sergster1 View Post
    There's no way to prove this. For all I know somehow you did something I did not do which gave you an advantage. For all I know the underlying code explicitly prevented me from winning and gave the win to you.

    You realize in 100% of lottos with flawed drawings that it results in a complete redraw right?
    You also can't prove they didn't win fairly either. Without seeing the reasons behind the bug you can't make a case either way. However saying "something you did not do which gave you an advantage" is completely made up. We all placed a bid. /emote praying at a placard or doing a dance or even checking the plot multiple times has nothing to do with anything. Last point is that no most lottos with this big of an issue are not 100% redrawn. I don't know where you got that statistic from but in most cases its far easier to keep the results and fix the bug to give the ones affected another chance with the same odds they originally had, basically reroll the bugged estates with original bidders. If you logic stands then the odds were slightly off say you did 3 bids out of 4 for a house but really there was 5 bids because of 0. Same odds for everyone there just an unknown bidder. Without knowing the actual bug reason though who knows. This is all speculation here
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  6. #56
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    If they come up with some BS saying they can't properly track the entrants, that'll be insane. I put my bids in as soon as the patch dropped so they've had all the logins, logouts, and play time between Tuesday and now to safe records to their database.
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  7. #57
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    i_roll_katamari's Avatar
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    Xela A'talia
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    Jenova
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    White Mage Lv 80
    this happened to me, too, on a small FC plot where i was the only bidder. i'm really disappointed. i sent a support desk ticket in but who knows what the end result of the fix will be.
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  8. #58
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    Qeilos's Avatar
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    Ailin Dorne
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    Brynhildr
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Illmaeran View Post
    If they come up with some BS saying they can't properly track the entrants, that'll be insane. I put my bids in as soon as the patch dropped so they've had all the logins, logouts, and play time between Tuesday and now to safe records to their database.
    As someone who went around at midnight last night saw alot of plots with 1, came back this morning and they were all 4+ ALOT of us went for a morning of bid drop
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  9. 04-17-2022 02:25 AM

  10. #59
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    YandeBunny's Avatar
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    Fannar Reykholt
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    Zalera
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    The plot I bid on only had two other people on it which results to only three participants all together. We lost.
    I knew the odds were against me 2 to 1, but I took the gamble because my chances against more participants were going to be lower.. and we all lost to a "0" entry. It even boasts :The winning number was "0" as if someone was suppose to have that number. "What?? Wait, how, when, where??" were my flabbergasted words as I read this. So I decided to reject my refund, so i could see how many people were in the pool. I thought maybe I miscounted the participants, but that was not the case: three people, and my number was "3". So who had "0"!?


    I didn't accept my funds in hopes that SE will (and should) consider issuing an instant recount. For those who lost the lottery and the plot was claimed, I can understand that the RNG system was also unfair to you too, because there was a chance that you all could have gotten this "0" as well. But it didn't, so I don't agree for SE to issue a recount on all the plots, because I can see so many people claiming their prize for the win and already in-gear of decorating. Yes, it's not fair because the coding did effect your chance to win too (because of the probability of it could have been "0"), but how would you feel if you did win, but get told "Hey we gotta demolish your plot to give everyone another fair chance on a corrected system". You would be peeved about it. So it would be messed up to find out the plot they so-luckily obtained (with a small percentage assistance), was demolished because of a system error that didn't effect them individually, but effected everyone as a whole for a chance that the plot could have rolled "0".

    I am very livid about this. I waited a week, checking on the plot daily to see if more people would join the pool, but it stayed at just three participants. I was RELIEVED to know I was up against just two other participants. I would have been fine if the number was "1" or "2" and screaming with joy to know it hit "3", because I would have lost or won fair and square....but this was not the case. The winning number was "0" for a participants of just three people. And those who were the only bidder have it even WORSE than I do, and I believe they should be given the plot fairly; not have to put in another ticket and wait another week where chances are they will be up against MORE people because they lost on a previous plot. If this was intentional of SE, they should have implemented in the announcement there may be a chance there could be no winner. I really hope that is NOT the case, because no one was aware of this possibility and it was not displayed anywhere on the announcement. Either this was a development issue or promotional issue. Regardless, this is on SE to make it right because they messed up.
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    Last edited by YandeBunny; 04-17-2022 at 02:32 AM.

  11. #60
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    Markfresh's Avatar
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    Froffy Know
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    Sephirot
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by BellBixbite View Post
    You also can't prove they didn't win fairly either. Without seeing the reasons behind the bug you can't make a case either way. However saying "something you did not do which gave you an advantage" is completely made up. We all placed a bid. /emote praying at a placard or doing a dance or even checking the plot multiple times has nothing to do with anything. Last point is that no most lottos with this big of an issue are not 100% redrawn. I don't know where you got that statistic from but in most cases its far easier to keep the results and fix the bug to give the ones affected another chance with the same odds they originally had, basically reroll the bugged estates with original bidders. If you logic stands then the odds were slightly off say you did 3 bids out of 4 for a house but really there was 5 bids because of 0. Same odds for everyone there just an unknown bidder. Without knowing the actual bug reason though who knows. This is all speculation here
    I agree, what people are missing is that no one won, if you add in the "0" as a bidder and say well 5 won but really it should of been 6, well thats pointless, no one won, "0" won it was never rolled on, "0" won by default.
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