Broken Lottery, Please Rollback

[Nepentha]

I'm sure what happened is they programmed in a 0 for plots no one bid on. Most likely when the patch went live, code got messy and suddenly there's a chance you can get 0 as a result. When that happens it bugs out, and says no one participated (as it is programmed to do in the event no one did). It's more common on FC houses because there are fewer bidders than personal houses. For houses with only 1 bidder, well, 50% chance you roll a 0 and it bugs.

Hopefully SE will address this sooner rather than later. Don't reclaim your gil yet, sit tight and wait. It sucks, but it is what it is.

[HyoMinPark]

I'm sure what happened is they programmed in a 0 for plots no one bid on. Most likely when the patch went live, code got messy and suddenly there's a chance you can get 0 as a result. When that happens it bugs out, and says no one participated (as it is programmed to do in the event no one did). It's more common on FC houses because there are fewer bidders than personal houses. For houses with only 1 bidder, well, 50% chance you roll a 0 and it bugs.

Hopefully SE will address this sooner rather than later. Don't reclaim your gil yet, sit tight and wait. It sucks, but it is what it is.

It makes sense for them to code in a failsafe of sorts for plots with no bidders. However, I’m fairly certain that you can design code to “ignore ‘0’ if x condition is met”, which, in this case would be “ignore ‘0’ if plot has active bids”. The more I think on this, the more I’m starting to believe that this 0 is not a bug and was 100% intentional.

[Nepentha]

It makes sense for them to code in a failsafe of sorts for plots with no bidders. However, I’m fairly certain that you can design code to “ignore ‘0’ if x condition is met”, which, in this case would be “ignore ‘0’ if plot has active bids”. The more I think on this, the more I’m starting to believe that this 0 is not a bug and was 100% intentional.

I'm not willing to subscribe to conspiracy theories, I'll assume it was just a bug for now. I would like to think SE wouldn't dare do this sort of thing knowing how disgruntled players are about housing atm.

[HyoMinPark]

I'm not willing to subscribe to conspiracy theories, I'll assume it was just a bug for now. I would like to think SE wouldn't dare do this sort of thing knowing how disgruntled players are about housing atm.

Considering how borked the housing in this game has always been, I don’t consider them actually making the no winners a possibility a conspiracy theory. You have way more faith in SE than I do.

[Greyhawk]

It makes sense for them to code in a failsafe of sorts for plots with no bidders. However, I’m fairly certain that you can design code to “ignore ‘0’ if x condition is met”, which, in this case would be “ignore ‘0’ if plot has active bids”. The more I think on this, the more I’m starting to believe that this 0 is not a bug and was 100% intentional.

From the Housing Lottery notes: "One winning entry will be randomly selected from the pool of applicants, and the player who submitted that entry will gain the ability to finalize their purchase of the plot."

That tells me that there will and should be a winner, not a possibility that no one would get it.

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...796b3f56abbd28

[HyoMinPark]

From the Housing Lottery notes: "One winning entry will be randomly selected from the pool of applicants, and the player who submitted that entry will gain the ability to finalize their purchase of the plot."

That tells me that there will and should be a winner, not a possibility that no one would get it.

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...796b3f56abbd28

Yes, I know. And that ultimately depends on what their definition of “winning entry” is. If it is one made by an actual player, or the failsafe.

I have no faith in the development team when it comes to housing in this game. So this might just be my cynicism showing. Either way, this looks bad on them: either they launched this system with it bugged (because clearly they didn’t try to test their code), or they launched a system with a possibility that no one won.

[dspguy]

They can't rollback. How will they do that? People have already moved into their Ishgard plots. They've already spent gil buying stuff for the new plot, purchasing the permit, etc etc. If they were going to do a rollback, they'd have to kill the server at 11:01am EST and keep it down until they fix it.

That's not going to happen. Whomever won and already moved in, will just keep it. The bugged plots will just go up again with the "bug" hopefully fixed.

[Soleil-Eclipse]

yep the same happened to me was the only entry and still lost to 0

[Juyira]

I wonder if the emergency maintenance from before messed with anyone who placed their bids early. Me and my FC co-leader placed ours two days ago and we got our large against 3 others who also placed theirs last minute. I see a lot of people getting their houses, but also a lot with 0 winning numbers.

I don't think a rollback is good in any case, a lot of people still won fairly. They should find a way to fairly reroll amongst the people who already bid on a plot that had a 0 win.

[Sergster1]

a lot of people still won fairly

There's no way to prove this. For all I know somehow you did something I did not do which gave you an advantage. For all I know the underlying code explicitly prevented me from winning and gave the win to you.

You realize in 100% of lottos with flawed drawings that it results in a complete redraw right?