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but don't act like this is something nobody has solved before.

Various companies in the past have fit the PC-tailored controls for the gamepad efficiently, without taking away any of the involvement in the process. 3x3 grid is the most commonly used method, or something similar- even to the point that you can tilt the analog pad to scroll the abilities you have at your disposal. Basic attack doesn't even have to be in the grid, but can have a key assigned to it for both gamepad and for example the mouse. Making these actions require button combinations would be the best solution (for gamepads, not keyboard+mouse users), but certainly not the only one.

Yes thank you you just reposted what was already said before about other solutions, we know this already, this is not the first post on the subject. Most of which I have already posted congradulating the ideas, Once again I already acknowledged that there are other ways to get around this in some respect, so once again your inability to follow continuity and context is shown becasue I never acted like this hasn't been partially solved elsewhere.

Voice is just as accessible, and that enables you to play from the couch with just your gamepad as well. It wasn't a good argument, it isn't a good argument, and it won't be a good argument. .

Can you please try to stick to an acrual arguement opposed to your own beliefe of what is good and not good. Do you have a reason for saying so? is there a logic to these statements or do you expect us all to take you on your word as an authority on good and bad ideas?


If you want to use VOIP on PS3 for FFXIV they need to put the ability in, as it is currently not in the game ther eis nothing that players can do about it. You want me to have my laptop (or desktop) in the living room so I can use a PC VOI just because you dont' want an AA, yea that is solid reason right there.... Also I said previously that VOIP is a personal choice and will fix some of the problems for controlers, not all of them.

I don't care about your subjective opinion. If you have nothing to back it up with it is meaningless for this argument. We are not comparing color green to color orange. .

Do you enjoy quotiing out of context or do you seriously not know how to do it? do you work for CNN?
anyway there was meaning in that comment you chose to leave it out.

"Also, queuing up commands does very little for freeing up the number of commands you need to input in a given time because you still need to input the systems. What it does do is allow you put them in bigger chunks to try to free up some desperate time in the middle for typing or w/e but you know what I don't care, because it still won't be FUN!!!!"

There is meaning here, it is the queue doesn't fix the problem of to many entries for control pads, the fact I don't think it is fun IS subjective, so your not entirely wrong, but it I was comparing apple to apples.

Do you see the difference there? I started with something quantatative by saying it does very little to reduce the volume of commands, I then explained the mechanics behind why it doesn't reduse the volume of command, then I gave my opinion of that by saying it wastn' fun.

very relivent but your misquoting removed the content, nothing new there....

(I'd go as far as to say that your basic attacks deal most of the damage in any encounter.

This seems pretty easy to quantify, but hey look you didn't even try. Even if it this statement were true, AA would mean you can perform onto what I consider more interesting moves.

Fun is subjective and as such does not have a place in an objective argument. .

Yes this is subjective, and preference, but I am allowed to say it even in an objective arguement because I am not using it as proof of a fact and I am claiming it is my opinion and not fact, just like my previous comment about preforming more interesting moves. Your view that it has no place in an objective arguemnt IS however a misuse of subjective language in an objectice arguement, thanks for providing an example to the contrary. It is wrong becasue you are claiming an opinion as a fact without explaining that it is an opinion, thanks for showing an example of the difference it is much appreciated.

Communication is handled by voice chat- if you're too stubborn to use it, it is no longer the fault of the developer or anyone else. It is your personal problem and you have to deal with it. .

If the developer wants people to use it, and is designing around it, they need to provide it. Blizzard figured this out and implemented VOIP in SC2 and WoW. Heroes of New Earth as well, if your game is complex enough to require VOIP or you want it for a social aspect then I think VOIP should be included.

God, your reasons just suck. Why am I even replying. 1 can be done right now, 2 is a negative, 3 doesn't make any sense, 4 can be done right now (even better in -fact, because you have more control over your attacks), 5 what.. just... ugh.

1 you didn't respond to the problem just mis quoted
2 requires servies that currently do no exist and SE has made no indication they want to put into the game
3 if three doesnt' make sence you need to reread it
4 If this can be done now, SE woudn't be looking at it
5 your point is valid and is a difference in opinion, I said I don't want 20 actions a min and you do, that is opinion, you are allowed to think what you will.

What you shoudl stay away form is saying this

[QUOTE=Betelgeuzah;56812]


It is never a desired effect for any game.[QUOTE]

This is your opinion and should be adressed as such. Common this is grade school stuff you should know this by now. Your allowed to say you don't like something but dismissing aspects haphazardly is not an effectice way to communicate or argue a point.