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    Siddiax's Avatar
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    Sid Lostvayne
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    Make old Feast rewards grindable through Ranked Crystalline Conflict

    Considering how broken The Feast was and the amount of cheaters and wintraders, (there's literally 3 characters with the same name in top 100 in one of the last seasons) on top of the rewards being timegated, I think it's only fair we get another chance at obtaining them.

    My proposition is to have something akin to Wolf Collars, obtainable only in Ranked. For example, at the end of each season, you'd get one for being platinum, but the amount will increase the higher your rank is. Maybe reaching Crystal could guarantee a single item.

    A set or a mount could cost something like 5-10 of this currency so it would take multiple seasons to get an item if you've ranked platinum, meaning the Feast rewards would still be quite grindy and time consuming. Alternatively, they could make new recolors if people feel like the old stuff won't be as prestigious anymore. Though in my 4,5k hours I've seen four players wearing a Feast armor set and just two with one of the mounts, so I assume a decent amount who have them don't even play anymore.

    Especially now that the Feast is gone and CC ranked having rather lackluster rewards, (for the better honestly) I think that'd be a great way to obtain some cool stuff and incentivize people to play ranked.
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    Last edited by Siddiax; 06-29-2022 at 09:35 PM.

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    CC now will be treated like Firmament ranking. No more exclusive content locked behind ranked except a adventure plates, which I prefer this way than locking mount/gear behind ranked. Season pass is the good answer imo.
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    I think all of those older/Feast armor sets and mounts should be made obtainable once again in some shape or form, regardless if its to do with ranked or not.
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    I disliked the fact that the gears from Feast seasons were so badass, but locked out for most of the players, only to never return. I'd pay money for some of them from Mogstation if they are ever to return.
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    As someone who never had the skill or time to get into the silver ranks, i still feel the older pvp gear should remain locked to those achievements (even if many obtained them cheat tactics/ win trading). However, the idea of those same rewards being reskinned & given new color/ dye patterns & names (Replica Eagle Beak Armor, etc...) themes. In this way, original rewards can retain their unique nature but newer pvp enthusiast can be incentivized.
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    Last edited by Alacran; 04-16-2022 at 11:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alacran View Post
    As someone who never had the skill or time to get into the silver ranks, i still feel the older pvp gear should remain locked to those achievements (even if many obtained them cheat tactics/ win trading). However, the idea of those same rewards being reskinned & given new color/ dye patterns & names (Replica Eagle Beak Armor, etc...) themes. In this way, original rewards can retain their unique nature but newer pvp enthusiast can be incentivized.
    Reskins would be a decent alternative. I'd say the main issue is that most other games' Elite PvP sets are recolors of high-end raid sets, so I personally think its unfair that those unique appearances were timegated and given to a niche PvP gamemode. Most shooters also only give something like a weapon charm to the best players, instead of fully fledged cosmetics.
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alacran View Post
    As someone who never had the skill or time to get into the silver ranks, i still feel the older pvp gear should remain locked to those achievements (even if many obtained them cheat tactics/ win trading). However, the idea of those same rewards being reskinned & given new color/ dye patterns & names (Replica Eagle Beak Armor, etc...) themes. In this way, original rewards can retain their unique nature but newer pvp enthusiast can be incentivized.
    I would agree... if other content in this game were also timegated. It isn't though. UCoB has existed for six years and will still aware you the same weapon glamour it did on release. In fact, it's noticeably easier now. Why should PvP be the sole exception of having both timegated and exclusive rewards?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    I would agree... if other content in this game were also timegated. It isn't though. UCoB has existed for six years and will still aware you the same weapon glamour it did on release. In fact, it's noticeably easier now. Why should PvP be the sole exception of having both timegated and exclusive rewards?
    I never said it should be & voiced said opinion with controversy of the White Raven earrings, even though i never earned them back in 1.0. A simple name change to a prefix of Replica would denote any item is a recreation of the original & satisfy the need for those items earned previously to remain unique.
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    I think it's personally an awful idea, as someone that spent a tremendous amount of time and effort, while getting super frustrated grinding for top 100 in a previous season. I think it would be silly to just give it out to everyone for simply placing in gold, or reskinning them at all. While they are at it, they might as well unsync ultimate weapons, and just allow everyone to EZ clear them.

    People spend a lot of time and effort, it's fine if you didn't like old pvp or want to do it, but they already took any enticing rewards away from top 100 placements. A simple adventure plate and currency you can farm easily by just spamming casual play or any other form of pvp. Not to mention the fact that the trophy rewards are just reskinned AF gear, and nothing unique or interesting. I get they were cool armor sets, but that doesn't mean they should just hand it out like candy, they are already handing out all of the Wolf Collar weapons basically for free, all you do is spam some casual play for awhile, and you should be able to buy a ton of them in a few hours of grinding it out.

    I hope they leave all the top 100 rewards locked, and don't release reskins, it sounds like a terrible idea that will make the efforts of people that pushed hard for top 100 in the past to be meaningless entirely.
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    Vevri Arctyria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemonscented View Post
    I think it's personally an awful idea, as someone that spent a tremendous amount of time and effort, while getting super frustrated grinding for top 100 in a previous season. I think it would be silly to just give it out to everyone for simply placing in gold, or reskinning them at all. While they are at it, they might as well unsync ultimate weapons, and just allow everyone to EZ clear them.

    People spend a lot of time and effort, it's fine if you didn't like old pvp or want to do it, but they already took any enticing rewards away from top 100 placements. A simple adventure plate and currency you can farm easily by just spamming casual play or any other form of pvp. Not to mention the fact that the trophy rewards are just reskinned AF gear, and nothing unique or interesting. I get they were cool armor sets, but that doesn't mean they should just hand it out like candy, they are already handing out all of the Wolf Collar weapons basically for free, all you do is spam some casual play for awhile, and you should be able to buy a ton of them in a few hours of grinding it out.

    I hope they leave all the top 100 rewards locked, and don't release reskins, it sounds like a terrible idea that will make the efforts of people that pushed hard for top 100 in the past to be meaningless entirely.
    I think the comparison to unsync Ultimate isn't really an accurate one, since you can always go and do Ultimate (that, and, older Ultimates have become a lot easier over time due to potency changes/new jobs that work extremely well in them/etc...) what you can't do is go back and do the Feast for the armor sets. Personally speaking, I'm on the fence when it comes to fully re-releasing old Feast top 100 sets of gear -- would I like the sets? Of course, they fit one of the two aesthetics I tend to lean heavily into, and there aren't a lot of sets outside of this one piece of content where that aesthetic is used again (from the more black/red with the stylized knight-like pieces that can be used on any Job, to the set that reminded me of a Garlean Legatus that one season). And while I do like PvP in most titles I play, I just hate how it felt in XIV at the time and never wanted to deal with the server ticks in content that's supposed to feel more reactionary to your opponent.

    That said, I do understand that people put value on things they achieved and the rewards that came with them and I know those sets were extremely desired from the general playerbase as a whole (even when announced), but those are the examples of the only things in the game you can never achieve ever again aside from Legacy items (even if someone did fulfill the requirements of being ranked top 100 the next season). Which, I don't think that's entirely a good thing and I feel like there is probably a compromise that can be made that doesn't cheapen the reward, but allows it to still be attainable (ie.: Maybe every season, if you get top 100 in the premier ranked game mode, or a particular rank tier, you can have the option to pick one? Since the achievement is, still, ultimately the same).
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