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    Player CerusSerenade's Avatar
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    Re: YoshiP's response to Hrothgar hair reception

    I think it's fair to say most of us are willing to wait a year or two to get some really good quality hair styles. Sure, we will probably never get all of them, but we would love to have a number of them which many users have collectively agreed are popular, such as "Wind Caller".

    Maybe have a poll to gauge interest at some fan event, maybe open a survey on the site somewhere. Something that would unambiguously collect that information, then focus on the top 5 or so hairstyles that players want most for Hrothgar, and take all the time it takes to keep the face, ears, and rest of the model's qualities intact.

    It hurts to say that we aren't happy with the current options because we know that a lot of work went into it, but it's because we know you value our feedback that we say it at all at a place like this.

    I think it's fair to say most Hrothgar players are fine with only having a few hairstyles to pick from, so long as those hairstyles are well made, and while it will take time, there are ways to go about discovering which hair styles are most popular, and then putting them on the roadmap. This is probably the best compromise to be made. This way you don't have to guess and pray that the hair styles you picked are the ones your players want, and you can take all the time you need to perfect these 5 or so hair styles that will probably satisfy the largest number of players.
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    But if they did a poll they'd have to actually read the forums instead of just insisting they do to placate us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denji View Post
    But if they did a poll they'd have to actually read the forums instead of just insisting they do to placate us.
    Oh please. They read the forums. They just rarely say anything because they can’t react in real time to the million topics that get generated on a daily basis. You can’t design things that take 3 - 4 months to develop by interacting with the shifting whims of people on here. Best they can do is react to general trends or implement an idea they saw on here and liked. But by the time it comes out the thread they got the idea from is probably buried in page 600 of the forums and no one remembers it.
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    Last edited by Ath192; 04-16-2022 at 05:18 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    Oh please. They read the forums. They just rarely say anything because they can’t react in real time to the million topics that get generated on a daily basis. You can’t design things that take 3 - 4 months to develop by interacting with the shifting whims of people on here. Best they can do is react to general trends or implement an idea they saw and here and liked. But by the time it comes out the thread they got the idea from is probably buried in page 600 of the forums and no one remembers it.

    if they read the forums they would've seen the years of hairstyle discussion around Hrothgar and not released those monstrosities.

    it's either that or they disregarded those discussions which is no better.

    ignored or discarded. pick your poison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denji View Post
    if they read the forums they would've seen the years of hairstyle discussion around Hrothgar and not released those monstrosities.

    it's either that or they disregarded those discussions which is no better.

    ignored or discarded. pick your poison.
    Ignored. And it didn’t pay off. So they’re now asking for more feedback on here to see what they can do to placate the situation.

    I mean I just tried to tell them what they didn’t want to hear in the main thread. Whatever they do is up to them. But I think it’s what everyone has been wanting, or the gist of it anyways.

    You should also say your piece there, just in case that’s the only thread they decide to focus on.
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    Last edited by Ath192; 04-16-2022 at 05:24 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denji View Post
    ignored or discarded. pick your poison.
    More like incompetent. It's blunt but it's true, incompetency is the only reason I can think of for the reason they'd ever consider releasing something so half assed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyrj View Post
    More like incompetent. It's blunt but it's true, incompetency is the only reason I can think of for the reason they'd ever consider releasing something so half assed.
    At this point they should just pay whatever royalties required to the modders and release ingame the dozens of hairstiles they've adapted, including the ones added in this patch but a lot less hideous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyrj View Post
    More like incompetent. It's blunt but it's true, incompetency is the only reason I can think of for the reason they'd ever consider releasing something so half assed.
    Might be me being hyperbolic, but seems like they are falling back into their 1.0 ideology of 'patch it later'. I want to give the team some benefit of the doubt and suggest that maybe FF16 is taking away from 14. SQ-EN likes to spread their talent thin for whatever reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    They just rarely say anything because they can’t react in real time to the million topics that get generated on a daily basis.
    We don't generate millions of topics a day. We get a million topics necro'd a day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    Oh please. They read the forums. They just rarely say anything because they can’t react in real time to the million topics that get generated on a daily basis. You can’t design things that take 3 - 4 months to develop by interacting with the shifting whims of people on here. Best they can do is react to general trends or implement an idea they saw on here and liked. But by the time it comes out the thread they got the idea from is probably buried in page 600 of the forums and no one remembers it.
    It's currently one of the most controversial topics, not only in here but around the community (5ch, Discord servers, Twitter, Reddit). Memes have been flying around like crazy. Content Creators reacted to it.

    It's not your random "Oh X healer is bad pls fix". It's currently one of the topics with the most posts in the shortest amount of time.
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