Re: YoshiP's response to Hrothgar hair reception

[CerusSerenade]

I think it's fair to say most of us are willing to wait a year or two to get some really good quality hair styles. Sure, we will probably never get all of them, but we would love to have a number of them which many users have collectively agreed are popular, such as "Wind Caller".

Maybe have a poll to gauge interest at some fan event, maybe open a survey on the site somewhere. Something that would unambiguously collect that information, then focus on the top 5 or so hairstyles that players want most for Hrothgar, and take all the time it takes to keep the face, ears, and rest of the model's qualities intact.

It hurts to say that we aren't happy with the current options because we know that a lot of work went into it, but it's because we know you value our feedback that we say it at all at a place like this.

I think it's fair to say most Hrothgar players are fine with only having a few hairstyles to pick from, so long as those hairstyles are well made, and while it will take time, there are ways to go about discovering which hair styles are most popular, and then putting them on the roadmap. This is probably the best compromise to be made. This way you don't have to guess and pray that the hair styles you picked are the ones your players want, and you can take all the time you need to perfect these 5 or so hair styles that will probably satisfy the largest number of players.

[Denji]

But if they did a poll they'd have to actually read the forums instead of just insisting they do to placate us.

[Ath192]

But if they did a poll they'd have to actually read the forums instead of just insisting they do to placate us.

Oh please. They read the forums. They just rarely say anything because they can’t react in real time to the million topics that get generated on a daily basis. You can’t design things that take 3 - 4 months to develop by interacting with the shifting whims of people on here. Best they can do is react to general trends or implement an idea they saw on here and liked. But by the time it comes out the thread they got the idea from is probably buried in page 600 of the forums and no one remembers it.

[Denji]

Oh please. They read the forums. They just rarely say anything because they can’t react in real time to the million topics that get generated on a daily basis. You can’t design things that take 3 - 4 months to develop by interacting with the shifting whims of people on here. Best they can do is react to general trends or implement an idea they saw and here and liked. But by the time it comes out the thread they got the idea from is probably buried in page 600 of the forums and no one remembers it.

if they read the forums they would've seen the years of hairstyle discussion around Hrothgar and not released those monstrosities.

it's either that or they disregarded those discussions which is no better.

ignored or discarded. pick your poison.

[Ath192]

if they read the forums they would've seen the years of hairstyle discussion around Hrothgar and not released those monstrosities.

it's either that or they disregarded those discussions which is no better.

ignored or discarded. pick your poison.

Ignored. And it didn’t pay off. So they’re now asking for more feedback on here to see what they can do to placate the situation.

I mean I just tried to tell them what they didn’t want to hear in the main thread. Whatever they do is up to them. But I think it’s what everyone has been wanting, or the gist of it anyways.

You should also say your piece there, just in case that’s the only thread they decide to focus on.

[KayRadley]

They just rarely say anything because they can’t react in real time to the million topics that get generated on a daily basis.

We don't generate millions of topics a day. We get a million topics necro'd a day.

[Vercinotrix]

But if they did a poll they'd have to actually read the forums instead of just insisting they do to placate us.

They literally changed the entirety of house buying and ward allocation due to the forums.

[Denji]

They literally changed the entirety of house buying and ward allocation due to the forums.

I'm sorry but they blatantly ignored 3 years of discussion around Viera and Hroths and then tried to pass it off as us needing to suddenly participate here more despite the fact we already were.
You don't even need the forums to know housing was an issue.

[LaylaTsarra]

I'm sorry but they blatantly ignored 3 years of discussion around Viera and Hroths and then tried to pass it off as us needing to suddenly participate here more despite the fact we already were.
You don't even need the forums to know housing was an issue.

I'm personally very happy to see the additions to Viera. It was a long wait but the hairstyles we're getting now are great. We got 12 new ones in the xpac release and with 6.1. That's not to say what they've done with Hroths is a good decision. I think they seriously need to rethink what they've done and fix it. They seem to have acknowledged the uproar although the question is what will they do and how long will it take.

[HisShadowX]

I think it's fair to say most of us are willing to wait a year or two to get some really good quality hair styles. Sure, we will probably never get all of them, but we would love to have a number of them which many users have collectively agreed are popular, such as "Wind Caller".

Maybe have a poll to gauge interest at some fan event, maybe open a survey on the site somewhere. Something that would unambiguously collect that information, then focus on the top 5 or so hairstyles that players want most for Hrothgar, and take all the time it takes to keep the face, ears, and rest of the model's qualities intact.

It hurts to say that we aren't happy with the current options because we know that a lot of work went into it, but it's because we know you value our feedback that we say it at all at a place like this.

I think it's fair to say most Hrothgar players are fine with only having a few hairstyles to pick from, so long as those hairstyles are well made, and while it will take time, there are ways to go about discovering which hair styles are most popular, and then putting them on the roadmap. This is probably the best compromise to be made. This way you don't have to guess and pray that the hair styles you picked are the ones your players want, and you can take all the time you need to perfect these 5 or so hair styles that will probably satisfy the largest number of players.

I am still waiting for my Higherland to get beards instead I have chops