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  1. #21
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    Rolder50's Avatar
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    Alarasong Elaha
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    Siren
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    White Mage Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by Syln View Post
    And then again you won't even get killed if you are above 50% hp so ....
    What? The SAM LB is:

    Swiftly charges forward, dealing damage to target and all enemies nearby it with a potency of 24,000.
    If target is afflicted with Kuzushi, deals damage equal to 100% of their maximum HP.
    Ignores the effects of Guard when dealing damage.

    That's a set one shot.
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  2. #22
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    Guesswhat's Avatar
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    Aira Comet
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    Odin
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    Pugilist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    .
    The Nin LB requires HP to be below 50% (or was it <= 50%)
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  3. #23
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    Shuuli Vondael
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    Adamantoise
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    As someone who played overwatch and UT2K4 - there is a reason why people dislike camp snipers... (with oneshot mechanics)

    But there is also a reason why they are in the game. (Cause people who do the killing can be Chads and everyone wants to be a chad in pvp)
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  4. #24
    Player Anhra's Avatar
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    Anhra Nefaris
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    Omega
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    What? The SAM LB is:

    Swiftly charges forward, dealing damage to target and all enemies nearby it with a potency of 24,000.
    If target is afflicted with Kuzushi, deals damage equal to 100% of their maximum HP.
    Ignores the effects of Guard when dealing damage.

    That's a set one shot.
    There is a way arround it, some Jobs can mitigate the damage by debuffing the SAM in time, keeping targets alive with a silver of HP (10%)
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  5. #25
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    shandreax's Avatar
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    Shan D'reax
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    Diabolos
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    I completely agree these jobs with one shot mechanics REMOVE ALL BALANCE .. either give EVERYONE one or JUST DO not do it. thx again SE for making us play ONLY certain jobs to win matches SCREW letting us have any sort of fun playing jobs that are not of the top ONE SHOT JOBS.
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    Last edited by shandreax; 04-17-2022 at 03:16 PM.

  6. #26
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    Shan D'reax
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    Diabolos
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Literally I was top DPS in last 25 matches and still only win 4 of these because of the BS one shot. FIX YOUR BROKEN CRAP!! since if you cant kill in one shot YOUR BROKEN UNLIMITED HEAL WHM means ALL OTHER DPS just stick our thumbs up our.... NOSES!
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  7. #27
    Player Anhra's Avatar
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    Anhra Nefaris
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by shandreax View Post
    Literally I was top DPS in last 25 matches and still only win 4 of these because of the BS one shot. FIX YOUR BROKEN CRAP!! since if you cant kill in one shot YOUR BROKEN UNLIMITED HEAL WHM means ALL OTHER DPS just stick our thumbs up our.... NOSES!
    You dont seem to have the mentally for PvP. PvP isnt just about damage numbers. If you genuinely expect that facerolling your enemies is the only way of winning, of course youre going to lose aganist Jobs like SAM who punish your Team for getting greedy.
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  8. #28
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    Shan D'reax
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    Diabolos
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    LOL!! you do not get consecutive top numbers by being greedy since in order to get them you HAVE to not die! And yes you get face rolled due to rest of your team under performing you start to get ticked off. but thx for trolling the forums!
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    Last edited by shandreax; 04-17-2022 at 04:22 PM.

  9. #29
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    Barachim Vandal
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    Phoenix
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    I take one shot mechanics all day over the ton of stupid crap that puts a stun on me.
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  10. #30
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    Mistral Arthas
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by shandreax View Post
    I completely agree these jobs with one shot mechanics REMOVE ALL BALANCE .. either give EVERYONE one or JUST DO not do it. thx again SE for making us play ONLY certain jobs to win matches SCREW letting us have any sort of fun playing jobs that are not of the top ONE SHOT JOBS.
    I've played so many games in the last three or four days (whenever i started new pvp) and what I found is that SAM and WHM are terrifying to fight if those enemies know what they're doing. SAM LB is on a 120s charge time, requires that Chiten set up - Kuzushi only lasts for 3s - before they can pop that thing. I suggest looking at the enemy tab which clearly shows you if they have LB charge ready. CC requires situational awareness, your HUD helps with that and if you fell for a SAM baiting, that's honestly on you. Yes, the debuff triggering Kuzushi definitely needs to get fixed so only direct attack would trigger it but otherwise, considering most of the jobs are good if you play it right (i still think gnb needs a bit of buff). Also, I've killed so many WHM both as SGE and BLM and I've baited enough SAM as SGE because so many people tunnel vision and think the objective is to kill people instead of pushing the crystal--

    [[PSA: STOP CHASING PEOPLE AND KEEP WITH THE OBJECTIVE IF POSSIBLE. K, THANKS]]

    --that no matter how many kills they have and no matter how high they are on the kill/damage list, they're not winning. There's a reason that when I play BLM that I play an ice mage because people sleep on that disruption that cc can do - it's how I've annoyed these so called op jobs. Honestly, I'm not gonna berate you for whether you're good enough or not but I would ask that you take a moment and look at your own and your team's display during a fight. What your job's role is and what its strength and weaknesses are. I also play SAM in pvp for good measure and I know enough to know when to pull out and run and when the stay as well as when to bait my LB - that thing still has hefty damage if it doesn't one shot so it can still help if you didn't manage to bait.
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