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    Valkret's Avatar
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    Valkret Hrillesel
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    Jenova
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    Reaper Lv 90

    One Shot Mechanics

    What is the design decision behind one shot kill mechanics? It makes no sense to me because there is little to no counter play whatsoever. PVP overall in this new patch is so much better, but these overpowered LBs that some jobs have are just garbage game design.
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    Rael_Norende's Avatar
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    Rael Norende
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkret View Post
    What is the design decision behind one shot kill mechanics? It makes no sense to me because there is little to no counter play whatsoever. PVP overall in this new patch is so much better, but these overpowered LBs that some jobs have are just garbage game design.
    Yeah, I hate games with "Don't hit me or you lose" mechanics, which is what leads to SAM's one shot LB. Any game that forces me to stop damage or kill myself instantly is unfun to play.
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    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Leaving my SAM in Kugane
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    Raansu Omiyari
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    I'm not really a fan of them, but mostly due to the lack of audio queues. The mode was clearly inspired by overwatch and the LB's are like OW's version of ultimates (heck, drg LB is literally doomfists ult lol). Difference is in OW you have pretty large audio queues when someone pops an ult. I'm not even sure you can hear an enemy LB sound effect...or at least I never noticed it when I was playing last night so I was always getting a out of nowhere death from full health lol.

    If they were a little bit more obvious and had clear audio queue's then I think they would be perfectly fine because at least then you could react to them and not just randomly die from full health wondering what the hell killed you.
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    Charlotte_Wells's Avatar
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    Charlotte Wells
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    I expect that most casual pvpers don't even know about skills like the SAM LB
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    Oneuproad's Avatar
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    Oneuproad Aleanip
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    There is no "react" to it, no audio, visual support will help you. There is no counter play, you just get 1 tapped by all means, Guard, full health, mitigations don't matter. I have only managed to dodge a samurai LB once, and that was because he was dumb enough to stay outside of my sage LB so i was invincible to his attacks.

    Not sure if there is anything else that can ignore the 1 tap, Tank invuls I reckon.

    Some humanape(samurai main) was trying to justify to just not hit him while his buff is up that provides the debuff on the attacker to get onetapped, not sure if he realised but the current PvP, at least CC, has a lot more aoes at hand. So you may not even realise that you are debuffed to get 1 tapped.
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    Naizakane's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Daca'a Fashonti
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Oneuproad View Post
    Some humanape(samurai main) was trying to justify to just not hit him while his buff is up that provides the debuff on the attacker to get onetapped
    So this is what we're doing huh
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    Guesswhat's Avatar
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    Aira Comet
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 100
    Don't like it at all. Especially the Sam LB and mch proc. Too cheap and too random. Dunno, doesn't feel like they belong in this kind of PvP.

    Sam LB specially in FL. You can accidentally aoe a sam, and then get 1 shot. Feels really, really cheap xP.
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  8. #8
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Amelia Barret
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    I don't mind that the LB's do massive burst damage but i hate the ones that can instakill like once i remember fighting a Samurai and he was losing the fight so he did his LB and instantly won the 1v1 because haha hit me and you instantly die because that's fair
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    Syln's Avatar
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    Character
    Saya Finwel
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    I love insta kill on lb, i mean what the point of single target damage dealing lb if they don't kill ? And then again you won't even get killed if you are above 50% hp so ....
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    Character
    Sililos Sanura
    World
    Sophia
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 100
    lol in a game earlier my jaw dropped as I was one shot by someone's LB, Was like "Damn... they get a unblockable one hit kill LB and all i got was a purifiable 2 second charm." *Insert picture Patrick after the friendly handshake*
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